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2015-06-04 Study of 1 Corinthians Week 7


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00:00:00.000 | It says, "And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual men, but as to men
00:00:06.760 | of flesh, as to infants in Christ.
00:00:09.280 | I gave you milk to drink, not solid food, for you were not yet able to receive it.
00:00:14.640 | Indeed, even now you are not yet able, for you are still fleshly.
00:00:20.800 | For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not
00:00:26.120 | walking like mere men?
00:00:28.320 | For when one says, 'I am of Paul,' and another, 'I am of Apollos,' are you not
00:00:32.600 | mere men?
00:00:34.680 | What then is Apollos, and what is Paul, servants through whom you believed, even as the Lord
00:00:40.000 | gave opportunity to each one?
00:00:42.480 | I planted, Apollos watered, but God was causing the growth.
00:00:47.180 | So then neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything but God who causes
00:00:51.520 | the growth.
00:00:52.520 | Now he who plants and he who waters are one, but each will receive his own reward according
00:00:59.040 | to his own labor.
00:01:00.800 | For we are God's fellow workers, you are God's field, God's building."
00:01:05.280 | Let's pray.
00:01:06.520 | God, we pray for wisdom insight.
00:01:09.640 | We pray, Lord, for attentive ears.
00:01:13.640 | That, God, we might hear what you have to say.
00:01:16.720 | Help us in our study to have just fruitful, Lord, both inspiration and conviction.
00:01:22.880 | God, that we might truly apply your teaching about unity within the church, about the existence
00:01:30.200 | of division and carnality within, amongst the body.
00:01:34.240 | I pray, Father, God, that all of us would be able to apply into those aspects of our
00:01:38.840 | lives.
00:01:39.840 | We thank you for your word in Christ's name.
00:01:42.520 | Amen.
00:01:43.520 | Okay.
00:01:44.520 | So I want to begin by just simply focusing on this beginning portion, verse one of chapter
00:01:52.560 | three.
00:01:53.560 | And he says, "And I, brethren, could not speak to you as spiritual men, but as to men
00:01:59.160 | of flesh, as to infants in Christ."
00:02:02.360 | Okay.
00:02:03.360 | So Paul is expressing a sense of frustration.
00:02:08.120 | He's expressing a sense of, "I want to speak to you as spiritual people, but I can't."
00:02:15.520 | Right?
00:02:16.720 | But it's really interesting that he uses several terms to describe how they are.
00:02:21.800 | He describes them as men of flesh, and he describes them as infants of Christ, or in
00:02:26.480 | Christ.
00:02:27.480 | I want to ask you this beginning question, since it's the first verse is more so focused
00:02:31.840 | on Apostle Paul describing who they are, when you think of infants, what comes to mind?
00:02:41.520 | Or if you've kind of did the homework a little bit, what do you think is the description
00:02:46.720 | here of this infant?
00:02:48.680 | This infant in Christ?
00:02:50.360 | I thought you were raising your hand.
00:02:56.520 | Just scratching your head.
00:02:59.520 | How about Lone Ranger Matt?
00:03:06.520 | You don't have your team today.
00:03:09.520 | I think he's talking about a young fever, so that's just, you know, not from the darkness
00:03:19.520 | of the light, but still has a lot of fleshly struggles that are still in his life.
00:03:24.520 | Okay.
00:03:25.520 | So it could involve that.
00:03:26.520 | Yeah.
00:03:27.520 | I think that's what, you know, kind of clearly he's talking about.
00:03:30.840 | He's like, you're like an infant in Christ, so maybe you are like a recent convert.
00:03:38.560 | You kind of don't know any better.
00:03:40.980 | Maybe you have some old habits that you're accustomed to.
00:03:45.600 | Maybe what you know to do and only know to do is certain things that pertain to the kind
00:03:52.240 | of, or you know, kind of contribute to the division that exists in the church.
00:03:57.200 | Anybody else have other thoughts of what it means to be an infancy?
00:04:02.880 | There are just some things maybe that come to mind when I say infant.
00:04:06.720 | Okay, cool.
00:04:09.520 | That's what it says here.
00:04:12.800 | They can't eat solid food and stuff like that.
00:04:16.680 | Infants require a lot of what?
00:04:18.480 | Spoon feeding.
00:04:19.480 | Infants require a lot of hands-on attention.
00:04:22.120 | Infants need to basically care in detail to every single thing they do.
00:04:25.280 | Are there any other things that kind of come to mind?
00:04:28.200 | Yes.
00:04:29.200 | I've heard that it's used differently for other religions.
00:04:35.200 | And so that it's important not to have one to mean anything, because that can be a big
00:04:42.200 | deal.
00:04:43.200 | I was studying the Bible, that passage that people translate into the Hebrew Bible.
00:04:49.200 | The Hebrew 6-1?
00:04:50.200 | And it's about the Spirit.
00:04:53.200 | It's different, yeah.
00:04:55.520 | It is different.
00:04:56.520 | So she was saying that you shouldn't, I guess, limit yourself to one idea of a term because
00:05:02.160 | it's used differently in the Bible.
00:05:04.200 | Absolutely.
00:05:05.200 | What I'm trying to do right now is kind of get your, what we would normally think to
00:05:09.320 | be infancy, and then contrast that with what in this context, this passage is saying.
00:05:15.240 | Thank you though, because you're absolutely right.
00:05:17.840 | The principle is look at the context for what it is, how it is using that term here in this
00:05:23.760 | passage, right?
00:05:26.160 | But some of the things that we think of are pertaining to that stuff.
00:05:29.920 | We just, that kind of stuff we talked about.
00:05:32.600 | Well, as we look at those details then, he's calling them infants, and we just mentioned
00:05:39.060 | that maybe, maybe perhaps, he's talking about the fact that they're acting like brand new
00:05:43.600 | Christians, like they just converted.
00:05:46.120 | Maybe he's talking about the fact that Apostle Paul has to spoon feed them everything.
00:05:50.280 | So we're kind of honing in on what he's intending to say by calling them infants.
00:05:56.440 | Because you've got to realize, that's pretty significant, you know, when you write a letter
00:06:00.400 | to somebody and you're telling them, you're just like a baby, big baby, you know.
00:06:06.360 | It's, you know, let's try to figure out what he's trying to say.
00:06:09.560 | Well, we want to ask, he does say in verse two, look, I gave you milk to drink and not
00:06:15.200 | solid food.
00:06:16.880 | This is part of what makes them infants, right?
00:06:20.360 | And so, what could he be referring to when he talks about milk, when he talks about solids?
00:06:27.600 | What is he referring to as he uses this metaphor?
00:06:31.720 | What do you guys think?
00:06:39.200 | Okay.
00:06:44.160 | So spiritual truths.
00:06:45.840 | So would you say solid food, like they're both in the category of spiritual truth or
00:06:50.720 | is solid foods like spiritual truths and doctrines and milk is something else?
00:06:59.200 | Okay.
00:07:19.560 | Be confident, Karen.
00:07:20.560 | Yes.
00:07:21.560 | Okay.
00:07:22.560 | Cool.
00:07:23.560 | Okay.
00:07:24.560 | You guys hear what he was saying?
00:07:29.560 | All right.
00:07:34.560 | Good.
00:07:43.280 | Those are all like, both of what you're saying, he's not obviously explicit here, right?
00:07:47.800 | He doesn't expound on it and say milk is this and solid food is this.
00:07:52.120 | And I agree with you, Karen, that I think milk and obviously solid food belong to the
00:07:55.760 | same category of spiritual truth.
00:07:58.600 | And I like what you said about there's a difference between the depth, the difficulty to which
00:08:04.600 | you're able to understand, comprehend, right?
00:08:09.000 | Because and the reason why I'm having you guys think about this is because for us as
00:08:15.840 | an observation, typically when you think of stuff like this, say milk and solid food,
00:08:24.760 | sometimes we think purely on the level of intellectual knowledge.
00:08:27.560 | What do I mean by that?
00:08:30.100 | If you say, oh, this person's really kind of babyish in the way they think, they're
00:08:34.800 | not thinking deeply or, you know, when you talk about milk and when you talk about solid
00:08:41.120 | food, some of the people who like heavy theologies are like, oh, let's leave the milk and get
00:08:45.480 | into eschatology.
00:08:47.160 | Let's get into, you know, debates about, you know, the, the character of Jesus.
00:08:51.360 | Let's get into debates about Arianism and all this kind of stuff.
00:08:55.240 | Is that what solid food is, you know?
00:08:59.160 | And when you think baby, is that simply a lack of knowledge?
00:09:03.440 | The fact of the matter is we know from context that Apostle Paul, he addresses the Corinthians
00:09:10.280 | church, not as people who are ignorant.
00:09:13.480 | He addresses them not as people who intellectually are kind of slow and dumb.
00:09:17.720 | As a matter of fact, these people pride themselves on what knowledge.
00:09:21.760 | These people actually are very smart.
00:09:23.320 | They come from a culture where they love knowledge, right?
00:09:27.120 | So the issue here is he kind of introduces this idea or not an idea, a rebuke of them,
00:09:34.840 | their behavior and their attitude by addressing the fact that they are babies, not for a lack
00:09:39.720 | of knowledge, but because by, by their spiritual condition, they can't take spiritual truth.
00:09:48.040 | Right?
00:09:49.220 | He says the problem here in verse two, in the second half of verse two, he says, I gave
00:09:54.840 | you milk and not solid food.
00:09:56.760 | Why?
00:09:57.760 | For you are not yet able to receive it.
00:10:00.440 | Indeed, even now you are not able to receive it.
00:10:03.800 | Right?
00:10:04.800 | Even now you're not able.
00:10:06.000 | If you guys remember from week one in the Corinthians church and the church in Corinth,
00:10:12.360 | how long did apostle Paul stay at this church?
00:10:18.400 | If you don't know, if you don't remember, remember the like exact years or whatever,
00:10:21.400 | the months you can either say short time as in sometimes he stayed at certain churches
00:10:25.800 | only three months, six months longer would be like a year, year and a half, two years
00:10:31.040 | shorter long, long.
00:10:35.140 | As a matter of fact, he has, he has served and he has ministered in the church of Corinth,
00:10:41.040 | the longest out of all the churches.
00:10:43.840 | So you can imagine why he's getting frustrated.
00:10:45.400 | It's like you're like babies, but I've been teaching you for so long, right?
00:10:51.480 | The thing that he's getting at again is not because they were ignorant.
00:10:54.240 | It's not because a lack of knowledge, he's getting at something much deeper.
00:10:58.680 | And this is when for us, I kind of, I should have had you guys do it, but at the beginning
00:11:04.200 | of the section, I wanted you guys to note the conjunction words because what he's doing
00:11:08.480 | is he's building up a case.
00:11:10.480 | So do you guys notice it?
00:11:11.920 | He says, um, in verse two he says, I gave you milk to drink, not solid food for you
00:11:18.940 | are not yet able to receive.
00:11:20.280 | And then verse three, four, since there is jealousy and strife among you.
00:11:24.780 | So those reasons, remember the four can mean various things as well.
00:11:29.400 | Here he kind of uses the four as supporting evidences for what he just said, right?
00:11:35.880 | Supporting evidences for what he just said.
00:11:38.360 | And in verse three, what does he say?
00:11:40.640 | For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly?
00:11:46.920 | Okay.
00:11:48.280 | So if you go to letter C, I ask, he's been unpacking this rebuke, your babies, big babies.
00:11:57.160 | And in this rebuke of them being in infancy, he describes, or he tries to not tries, he
00:12:04.360 | calls them mere men or a fleshly man.
00:12:08.380 | Let me ask you just in your reading of verses one through four, okay.
00:12:14.360 | Verses one through four, the first half of that section, what are some of these descriptions?
00:12:19.040 | What kind of picture do we get of the infant person, the fleshly man?
00:12:37.800 | He's jealous.
00:12:38.800 | What else?
00:12:41.200 | Okay.
00:12:42.760 | Not spiritual.
00:12:46.560 | And he's in strife, right?
00:12:49.480 | So I left some blanks for you there and you guys can plug in the two, jealousy and strife.
00:12:55.360 | Okay.
00:12:56.400 | He says, jealousy is your carnality.
00:13:00.840 | Your jealousy is your fleshliness.
00:13:04.060 | It's your like base humanness.
00:13:07.880 | Do you find that a bit interesting at all?
00:13:10.480 | You know, because when we think of, oh, that guy is really fleshly.
00:13:15.240 | We think of real carnal appetites and typically it's sexual morality.
00:13:19.720 | Typically it's money.
00:13:20.720 | Typically it's power, right?
00:13:23.280 | It's really interesting to me that he highlights this idea of jealousy.
00:13:29.360 | And for us to think about that a little bit, I know this Bible study I'm doing a lot of
00:13:33.880 | like, well, what comes to your mind and what do you think?
00:13:36.160 | I'm going to do a bit more of that.
00:13:38.920 | When you think of a person who's jealous, how would you describe that person?
00:13:47.080 | What kind of things would he say, do and think this jealous man?
00:14:05.000 | How about some guys on that end?
00:14:13.560 | I wish I had what he had.
00:14:14.880 | That's a great definition.
00:14:16.600 | This kind of begrudging desire to have what someone else possesses, right?
00:14:22.880 | And if you think about, um, think about this for a moment, the 10 commandments.
00:14:31.120 | Within the 10 commandments, you realize God from the really early beginning addressed
00:14:37.120 | issues of jealousy.
00:14:38.400 | You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
00:14:41.480 | You shall not covet this and that, right?
00:14:45.040 | What else comes to mind when you think of a jealous person?
00:14:47.520 | Is that it?
00:14:48.520 | Jealous person just, you know, just wants what that guy has.
00:14:54.720 | Probably anger, frustration.
00:14:56.560 | If he finds himself in a position where he thinks, I don't have.
00:14:59.840 | He can get extremely bitter, discontent, just not happy, not happy with his plot in life
00:15:09.880 | and can't be happy for other people either.
00:15:12.480 | How can you be happy when you're sitting there looking at the person with jealous eyes?
00:15:19.520 | Anything else?
00:15:20.520 | Divisive.
00:15:21.520 | Yeah.
00:15:22.520 | There's a sense in which jealousy, that kind of, um, attitude in the heart that says, I
00:15:35.360 | can't bear to see that guy have more than me.
00:15:38.640 | So he always had to win.
00:15:40.520 | The kind of jealousy where you can't lose.
00:15:43.540 | So don't ever, you know, touch my possessions.
00:15:46.680 | Don't ever, you know, they're very overly protective.
00:15:49.980 | The stuff that we said earlier where they're, you know, like wanting the possessions of
00:15:55.500 | others and all that kind of stuff.
00:15:57.960 | These things naturally lead to what?
00:16:00.800 | Divisiveness.
00:16:01.800 | Divisiveness.
00:16:02.800 | In jealousy, they're willing to what?
00:16:05.840 | Hurt others.
00:16:06.840 | They're willing to step on others.
00:16:07.840 | They're willing to do what it takes so that I might gain.
00:16:10.800 | In their discontentment.
00:16:12.760 | That's what they would do.
00:16:14.760 | So what I'm saying is this, is there is a trail of thought, right?
00:16:19.020 | He says, you guys are infants.
00:16:21.040 | He says, you're infants because you're not able to receive spiritually what the spirit
00:16:25.840 | of God has to say to you.
00:16:27.760 | And he unpacks it and says, this infancy is marked by fleshliness, carnality.
00:16:32.360 | And what is this fleshless?
00:16:33.960 | It's not what we think typically, which is just this kind of abhorrent, base, sexual
00:16:38.680 | desire or whatnot.
00:16:40.680 | It's broadly speaking, your jealous heart.
00:16:43.560 | Right?
00:16:45.100 | And he says, this jealous heart in you has caused strife, has caused division within
00:16:50.540 | the church.
00:16:52.860 | People then in their jealousy competing probably for leadership positions, probably for power,
00:17:00.020 | probably for clout and authority.
00:17:01.780 | If I say I've got the teachings of Paulus, that's one thing.
00:17:06.340 | If I say I've got the teaching of a Paulus and you don't, now who has a position of authority?
00:17:12.900 | Me.
00:17:13.900 | You see what I'm saying?
00:17:15.820 | So the people, the men in the church were using their allegiance to leaders in the church
00:17:20.100 | to gain greater leadership, greater notoriety, greater titles.
00:17:25.460 | Okay?
00:17:26.460 | That we covered a bit earlier.
00:17:28.700 | So all I'm saying is there is this contrast he's building up and he's saying, Paulus
00:17:34.540 | and Paulus has been expecting them.
00:17:37.260 | After what I believe is, you know, well over a year, probably like 18 months or so, spending
00:17:43.420 | time with this church, investing into them, dealing with their problems.
00:17:48.220 | He expects them to be more mature, but he says, but you're not spiritual right now.
00:17:53.780 | You know?
00:17:55.340 | And so we have to take a, you know, take a moment to kind of encapsulate this point from
00:18:03.720 | verses one through four.
00:18:05.580 | And I asked this question, in verses one through four, what is he trying to prove to the men?
00:18:11.420 | What is he trying to argue to them?
00:18:14.140 | Right?
00:18:15.900 | Because in trying to do this, he's making a direct rebuke, but what is he convincing
00:18:20.140 | them of?
00:18:24.540 | Okay.
00:18:30.020 | So my hint is, takeaway point number one.
00:18:34.420 | There is a sense in which before in the previous sections, Apostle Paul was talking about the
00:18:42.460 | worldly principles in the environment, in the world.
00:18:48.300 | So he was saying, you know, there is a worldly philosophy, there's worldly wisdom, right?
00:18:54.260 | However, now in this passage, we're talking about, let me phrase it this way.
00:19:09.860 | Sometimes we like to blame stuff.
00:19:12.540 | Before we're talking about the wisdom of the world, the wisdom of this age, the wisdom
00:19:16.940 | of the rulers.
00:19:18.020 | That's all what?
00:19:22.340 | Out there, external.
00:19:24.020 | But here now, what is Apostle Paul really trying to convince them?
00:19:28.780 | That the problem is?
00:19:30.740 | Yeah.
00:19:32.220 | So he says, he's essentially saying, your attitude is jealous.
00:19:37.260 | That's your heart issue.
00:19:38.740 | So now we're talking about the pressures and enticements of their own heart.
00:19:43.580 | So that's the blank there.
00:19:45.540 | Before Apostle Paul's rebuked them and said, you're just buying into all this worldly philosophy.
00:19:50.300 | Your Greek philosopher told you you were stupid, so you didn't want to be stupid anymore.
00:19:55.340 | So now you're buying into his philosophy.
00:19:57.820 | And the world rulers have what they define as authority and power, and now you want it.
00:20:04.460 | So on that end, it's kind of like you have external enticements that keep saying, buy
00:20:08.740 | into our world system, buy into our world system.
00:20:13.100 | But there's something that Apostle Paul wants every person there to admit.
00:20:19.460 | More so than anything, those external enticements work because there is an internal pressure.
00:20:25.620 | There is a heart issue of jealousy, and that's an attitude of the heart.
00:20:31.460 | Okay?
00:20:32.460 | You guys see that?
00:20:36.980 | Now there's a second takeaway point from verses one through four, and it's an obvious one.
00:20:43.560 | So I asked this question, okay, like, what is Paul really frustrated about?
00:20:48.200 | What does it reveal about what he expects from the church?
00:20:52.180 | Now what I'm saying is, Apostle Paul knows the flesh, you know?
00:20:56.860 | In Romans chapter seven, he knows what it means to battle with his flesh, his humanness.
00:21:03.060 | And in many parts of scripture, he acknowledges, I'm a sinner.
00:21:05.900 | I'm the foremost of sinners.
00:21:07.220 | I know what it means to sin.
00:21:09.100 | I know what it means to have sinful desires.
00:21:10.760 | So there's a sense for me as I think about this passage, he's not necessarily frustrated
00:21:16.580 | that there exists flesh, because he's the one who teaches us, right?
00:21:23.940 | That although we're saved, there exists sinful flesh in this day and age.
00:21:29.340 | And until glorification, we're going to wrestle with it every day.
00:21:33.860 | What is his main frustration though, with them?
00:21:46.340 | I'll give you a hint.
00:21:48.700 | I think it's found in verse two.
00:21:54.460 | Yeah, absolutely.
00:22:02.740 | The lack of growth, the lack of growth.
00:22:07.000 | So takeaway point number two.
00:22:11.280 | Although sin and flesh continue to exist, and they are expected, maturity and tangible
00:22:18.320 | change are the norm for Christians.
00:22:22.960 | Maturity and tangible change are the norm for Christians.
00:22:27.640 | I guess you can say not maturity, but maturation.
00:22:30.560 | The growth and tangible changing.
00:22:35.960 | That's the norm for Christians.
00:22:37.680 | You might have started off as like persecuted the church, pagan to the core, but no matter
00:22:44.300 | where you start, what does God expect of you?
00:22:48.560 | To slowly change, right?
00:22:50.840 | It's totally honest.
00:22:51.840 | You know that song that goes, "He's changed, me."
00:22:54.840 | And then there's that little part that goes, "Although it's slow going, but there's the
00:22:59.400 | knowing."
00:23:00.400 | I was like, one day I was just like thinking about that.
00:23:02.720 | It's like, it's so true.
00:23:03.720 | You know, like change is a little slow and you know, all that stuff, but he's like, he's
00:23:10.280 | changing us and it might be different paces, but the expectation is there still has to
00:23:16.160 | be change.
00:23:19.080 | And I want to use this as a point here is like, you know, the other day, like I was
00:23:26.280 | spoon feeding Emmett and Bia just looked at me and said, "Let him feed himself."
00:23:30.720 | And I was like, "Whoa."
00:23:32.680 | And then she's like, "Yeah, he's already over two."
00:23:34.600 | And I was like, "You're right.
00:23:36.960 | Feed yourself, man."
00:23:37.960 | The thing about it is he knows how.
00:23:42.600 | He's actually, Emmett is more, I guess, coordinated than Yoshi is, but he totally knows how to
00:23:48.880 | manipulate you.
00:23:49.880 | He's like, "But I'm tired, Appa.
00:23:50.880 | Feed me."
00:23:51.880 | And I was like, "Your mother's right.
00:23:52.880 | You're over two.
00:23:53.880 | Feed yourself."
00:23:54.880 | Well, here's the thing though.
00:23:59.720 | Right now, kids do stuff that's cute.
00:24:02.440 | You know, so there's other kids, you know, when they do stuff like hit the baseball off
00:24:06.720 | the tee, it's great.
00:24:08.400 | When they do stuff like say string together sentences, it's great.
00:24:12.480 | Even if they have that, like they can't pronounce the R's and it sounds like W's and all that
00:24:17.360 | stuff, it's all cute.
00:24:20.640 | But if a 20 year old guy pronounces R's like W's, they're not going to say, "Oh, that's
00:24:24.200 | so cute.
00:24:25.200 | I want to date him.
00:24:26.200 | Hello."
00:24:27.200 | It's not cute.
00:24:32.640 | It's sad.
00:24:33.640 | It's like, "Uh, no one talked to you about that?"
00:24:38.080 | And if they're still hitting off the tee, it's not cute.
00:24:41.520 | If they're still running to second base rather than first base, it's not cute.
00:24:44.820 | If they still don't know how to feed themselves, it's not cute.
00:24:47.040 | It's sad.
00:24:49.920 | The expectation is you need to grow.
00:24:53.000 | And he expected these people to grow.
00:24:56.080 | He expected them to grow.
00:24:57.840 | And what was he frustrated about?
00:24:59.040 | It wasn't so much just a simple existence of flesh.
00:25:01.560 | That's my point.
00:25:03.080 | Because we all struggle with our flesh.
00:25:05.700 | We all struggle with sin.
00:25:07.800 | We all struggle with the stains of our previous life.
00:25:11.160 | And God is changing us, but that's the key.
00:25:14.280 | Apostle Paul says in verse two, "Even now."
00:25:19.080 | That's where I think, okay, Apostle Paul's a bit frustrated.
00:25:23.320 | Even now you still can't take it.
00:25:25.880 | You can't be babies anymore.
00:25:28.840 | And we have to hear that sometimes, you know?
00:25:31.280 | I hear guys when I ask them questions, I just don't like this statement.
00:25:36.600 | It's like when I ask them, "How are you doing?"
00:25:38.240 | They're like, "Things are good."
00:25:39.240 | I say, "What do you mean things are good?"
00:25:41.240 | And they're like, "It's just the same old.
00:25:43.200 | Just keeps plateauing a little bit."
00:25:45.320 | And I'm just like, "That's not reality."
00:25:50.640 | You know?
00:25:51.640 | You don't ever just plateau.
00:25:53.720 | You don't ever just stay the same.
00:25:55.740 | If I don't talk to my wife, Bia, for three months, I don't say, "Oh yeah, our relationship's
00:25:59.960 | just staying the same."
00:26:01.120 | No, our relationship's about to crash and go to the pits and she's gonna leave me, you
00:26:05.680 | know?
00:26:06.680 | As time goes by, things just don't stay the same.
00:26:10.880 | And that's a misconception.
00:26:13.200 | It's a lie.
00:26:14.200 | Your relationship with God does not stay the same.
00:26:17.360 | God expects growth.
00:26:20.100 | God expects continual interaction.
00:26:22.720 | God expects continual maturity.
00:26:25.040 | And I think that's what Apostle Paul is frustrated with these men.
00:26:29.760 | And I want you guys to just think about that a little bit, you know?
00:26:33.840 | The expectation for us, I feel like in recent days, there has been this kind of like wide-scale
00:26:41.120 | acceptance of failure.
00:26:44.200 | And there was this commentator on the blogs who said, "You know, there exists in this
00:26:47.600 | day and age of failureism where they almost like just kind of acknowledge and then accept
00:26:54.640 | the fact there's just gonna be a whole lot of failure.
00:26:57.880 | And so the only thing we can say about it is it's okay because you're in Christ."
00:27:02.200 | For me, Apostle Paul is not convincing them of their position in Christ to say, "Oh, you're
00:27:10.120 | in Christ and so therefore everything's okay."
00:27:12.920 | Apostle Paul's not talking about position, he's talking about practice.
00:27:17.240 | In practice, you're a baby.
00:27:19.600 | Are these people Christians that he's talking to?
00:27:21.480 | I think so because he says, "Brethren," and he says, "in Christ."
00:27:27.880 | So the point being here again is what Apostle Paul expects is maturity from the Christian.
00:27:35.400 | Expression of growth needs to exist.
00:27:40.200 | Any questions about verses one through four, the first paragraph?
00:27:47.800 | Okay, then verses five through nine.
00:27:53.640 | Let's read it first and it says, "What then is Apollos?"
00:27:58.040 | So you can see from here that he connects this section with the verses in chapter one,
00:28:04.280 | right?
00:28:05.280 | Because he mentions the same thing.
00:28:06.440 | "What then is Apollos and what is Paul?"
00:28:10.560 | He asks this question and then he answers, "Servants through whom you believed, even
00:28:15.240 | as the Lord gave opportunity to each one.
00:28:17.920 | I planted, Apollos watered, but God was causing the growth.
00:28:22.100 | So then, neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but God who causes
00:28:26.880 | the growth.
00:28:27.880 | Now, he who plants and he who waters are one, but each will receive his own reward according
00:28:33.760 | to his own labor.
00:28:35.240 | For we are God's fellow workers, you are God's field, God's building."
00:28:39.240 | All right, we're going to ask a question, a broad question, and we're going to leave
00:28:45.880 | it to B. And the question is, what's the main point he's making?
00:28:51.560 | And then secondly, how is this point connecting with the first paragraph, verses one through
00:28:56.920 | four?
00:28:57.920 | Okay?
00:28:58.920 | In order to answer that question, let's look at just the details.
00:29:02.800 | All right?
00:29:04.360 | So verse five says, "What is Apollos and what is Paul?"
00:29:07.840 | I know this again is kind of a more obvious question, but I want you guys to think about
00:29:12.280 | it for a second.
00:29:13.800 | How does Paul view himself and his fellow teachers like Apollos?
00:29:22.920 | Good.
00:29:31.640 | If I didn't leave three blanks in there, Kevin just added another one.
00:29:36.040 | Equally.
00:29:37.040 | Okay?
00:29:38.040 | How does Apostle Paul view himself and the fellow teachers?
00:29:40.560 | He does.
00:29:41.560 | He views himself and Apollos, who is Apostle Paul's understudy.
00:29:49.480 | Okay?
00:29:50.920 | He views it all equally.
00:29:54.000 | What else?
00:29:57.240 | Just as servants.
00:29:58.600 | Okay?
00:29:59.600 | Whereas perhaps the church people were looking at them like, "Oh, he's my leader.
00:30:06.760 | He's our representative."
00:30:08.960 | Apostle Paul looked at himself like, "I am your servant.
00:30:12.760 | I am God's servant."
00:30:13.760 | Okay?
00:30:15.800 | Anything else that you can kind of glean?
00:30:17.560 | I don't want you to necessarily milk it, but there's some other stuff you can draw from
00:30:21.200 | how he views himself and his fellow teachers.
00:30:25.760 | Great.
00:30:28.240 | Insignificant.
00:30:30.760 | Okay?
00:30:33.120 | That's an important one.
00:30:35.000 | Anything else?
00:30:38.440 | Who said that?
00:30:40.720 | He said gardeners.
00:30:43.240 | Maybe just like role players or something.
00:30:45.160 | Or like just, you know, just a worker.
00:30:48.560 | Just a task guy.
00:30:50.280 | You know?
00:30:54.720 | Now good.
00:30:56.120 | So I think for me, the point here, the reason why I asked that question is because the point
00:31:01.240 | in verse five through nine, he's giving them how he is viewing the scenario.
00:31:07.120 | Okay?
00:31:08.120 | The problem was these church guys had a really worldly way of viewing their involvement in
00:31:13.520 | the church and the involvement of leaders.
00:31:15.520 | Now he's giving his perspective.
00:31:17.800 | And in so doing, we gain that his perspective on himself and the fellow coworkers is very
00:31:23.640 | different from what's normal.
00:31:26.040 | You know what I'm saying?
00:31:27.640 | Like I'm going to confess, it's hard.
00:31:35.320 | Sometimes my nature wants to run things like a business at the church.
00:31:39.560 | So I want structure, levels of authority.
00:31:41.480 | This guy's like this and this guy has this and this guy has that.
00:31:43.840 | And then when this guy gives an order, just execute, you know?
00:31:48.320 | And not only that, but a lot of people in ministry, they do want a title because title
00:31:53.320 | makes a huge difference.
00:31:54.560 | Right?
00:31:55.560 | You know, you get treated when you have a title pastor or have a title deacon or have
00:32:00.000 | a title of this and that, servant team leader, whatever.
00:32:03.300 | It does make a practical difference on how people treat and view you.
00:32:07.040 | That's reality, right?
00:32:09.920 | So by way of confession, all of those intricate kind of balances exist, right?
00:32:16.160 | Now what's challenging is apostle Paul has a very counterintuitive, has a very clear
00:32:24.400 | vision of how he views himself.
00:32:26.760 | But more importantly, he has a clear view of God.
00:32:30.200 | My question to you is, how does apostle Paul view God in this scenario?
00:32:35.160 | How would you sum it up?
00:32:36.160 | If you had to choose one word, how is God seen in this scenario?
00:32:48.360 | Looking at the passage, you can even use the gardening example metaphor.
00:32:53.960 | Master?
00:32:56.400 | Okay, good.
00:33:00.920 | Master.
00:33:03.640 | For me, I just put big boss.
00:33:06.920 | He's the boss.
00:33:09.960 | Because he's the one who gives the people the task.
00:33:14.200 | He gives the people the opportunity.
00:33:16.880 | It's kind of like, when we say, "Oh, someone so and so gave me an opportunity," we're saying
00:33:21.480 | they hired us.
00:33:23.480 | This person gave us this networking thing and he gave us a way in.
00:33:26.440 | That person probably is in a hiring position.
00:33:28.320 | He's the boss, right?
00:33:30.720 | What's more than that too though, is letter C, God caused the growth.
00:33:38.580 | To do that, basically this is, perhaps this doesn't feel or doesn't sound like, "Oh wow,"
00:33:45.000 | to you.
00:33:46.000 | But how many people do you know who can guarantee success?
00:33:53.400 | Business people can promise it.
00:33:54.920 | They'll promise you, "Oh, if you make this investment, I think it's going to be double
00:33:59.240 | the investment.
00:34:00.240 | You'll double your money."
00:34:02.120 | Or they'll say, "I promise you this is going to be a win-win.
00:34:04.560 | I promise you this and this and that."
00:34:05.920 | That's the best they can do.
00:34:07.840 | Who do you know who can promise results?
00:34:10.880 | Success?
00:34:12.440 | Growth?
00:34:14.000 | God.
00:34:15.800 | He's in absolute control.
00:34:18.840 | Absolute control.
00:34:20.840 | And I love that about Apostle Paul's perspective.
00:34:24.400 | For us, although we know in reality we're not in control of the results, we always think
00:34:29.640 | it is.
00:34:30.640 | We have a one-to-one linear thinking.
00:34:33.280 | If I put in the time, the results will happen.
00:34:36.360 | If I exert this kind of energy, if I invest that, then the results will come.
00:34:40.600 | And then, when the results aren't there, you know what we're prone to do?
00:34:43.800 | And therefore I'm doing something wrong.
00:34:44.960 | Now I need to change it.
00:34:47.400 | That's typically how we think.
00:34:49.200 | It's hard not to think like that.
00:34:50.760 | Because we're so short-sighted.
00:34:53.720 | Apostle Paul has this perspective.
00:34:55.040 | He says basically, look, verse 7.
00:34:58.560 | Somebody said over here, "They're nothing."
00:35:00.800 | That's so important.
00:35:01.800 | He says, "So then neither the one who plants or the one who waters is anything but God
00:35:06.800 | who causes the growth."
00:35:08.320 | God then is everything.
00:35:11.200 | We're nothing.
00:35:12.200 | God is what?
00:35:13.200 | Everything.
00:35:14.200 | I think that's so key in this passage.
00:35:18.680 | So the takeaway point really, again, is verse 7.
00:35:23.360 | And in defining it, he says that they're truly nothing.
00:35:28.160 | Only people who've been given an opportunity.
00:35:29.880 | I want to highlight something for you, which is really interesting.
00:35:32.360 | Is when he defines him and his fellow teachers as servants, it is a different term that you
00:35:38.640 | see perhaps for deacons and for slaves.
00:35:41.840 | And you know how college has a doulos team, which is basically the literal translation
00:35:45.780 | is servant team.
00:35:48.700 | It's a different term here.
00:35:50.160 | You know what the term is?
00:35:51.720 | The term is diakonai.
00:35:55.400 | And the term means literally server boy.
00:36:00.140 | If you were in a house and you had a boy who served you food, that would be his title.
00:36:05.860 | If you had a restaurant and there was a guy bossing the dishes and cleaning the tables
00:36:09.360 | and washing it in the back, his title would be diakonai.
00:36:14.640 | Diakoni.
00:36:15.640 | And literally it's just a person who's serving the thing.
00:36:20.440 | And I think this is getting at now, for me, the question of how does all this teaching
00:36:25.500 | about Apostle Paul and Paulus and being servants, how does it connect with before?
00:36:32.920 | Here are these people struggling with pride and jealousy.
00:36:36.480 | Struggling to make more of themselves, to have more for themselves.
00:36:39.720 | Right?
00:36:40.720 | And he says, "All we are are servant boys.
00:36:44.280 | Do you go to a restaurant and be like, 'Hey, we want to name this restaurant after you.'
00:36:48.320 | Like if Mark Lim was the servant and then John Kim was the master chef, you don't name
00:36:54.440 | the restaurant Mark Cafe.
00:36:58.200 | You don't.
00:36:59.460 | Who do you name it after?
00:37:00.900 | The master chef, who typically is the what?
00:37:03.420 | The owner of the restaurant.
00:37:04.860 | You don't make a big hoopla.
00:37:06.180 | You don't put him on the menu.
00:37:07.380 | You don't highlight him.
00:37:08.380 | The restaurant, the foodies and stuff, they don't go over and shake the hand of the servant
00:37:13.880 | boy.
00:37:14.880 | It was so nice to be served by you.
00:37:16.840 | No, they say to the master chef, it was so nice to come into your restaurant and eat
00:37:21.120 | your food."
00:37:23.260 | And so Apostle Paul is giving them a perspective that's truly humble.
00:37:28.040 | As opposed to the way that they were thinking, Apostle Paul is giving them what was truly
00:37:32.840 | a humble perspective.
00:37:35.680 | And so a couple of the things that are humble perspective.
00:37:39.600 | Apostle Paul's humble perspective about his work.
00:37:45.640 | I think men struggle with it.
00:37:47.560 | Everybody struggles with it.
00:37:50.400 | You know guys who do something and they're so like mega, mega, mega insecure whether it'll
00:37:56.120 | be received well.
00:37:58.400 | Typically that's just, again, the way the view their work is they weight it very heavily
00:38:04.460 | as it defines them and men struggle with it a lot.
00:38:07.260 | Their work is a measure of their accomplishment, success and therefore everything about them.
00:38:13.120 | Well Apostle Paul has a very humble perspective about his work.
00:38:18.160 | When he talks about his planting and his watering, I mean humanistically speaking, is that all
00:38:24.400 | Paul did?
00:38:27.520 | He makes it seem so minimal.
00:38:29.120 | I just went over there, planted a seed and just packed the soil.
00:38:34.520 | Is that what Apostle Paul did?
00:38:36.520 | No, he sacrificed everything.
00:38:40.200 | He sacrificed all his possessions, his health.
00:38:43.320 | He stuck with people.
00:38:44.680 | He was imprisoned.
00:38:45.720 | He was chastised and persecuted and cast out from his society.
00:38:49.880 | He was treated like all this kind of stuff.
00:38:52.280 | To say like all I did was plant the thing.
00:38:54.840 | Doesn't that seem like a really, really understatement of what he has done?
00:39:00.760 | But Apostle Paul's perspective is very humble, is it not?
00:39:05.280 | What's more, I want to ask you this question.
00:39:14.440 | That doesn't fit necessarily really well.
00:39:16.360 | What's more though, really is the way that he thinks about his work.
00:39:23.880 | We typically think about our work as our work is our contribution.
00:39:30.440 | It's our value.
00:39:32.440 | So if I give you 10 hours, I better get paid for 10 hours.
00:39:38.200 | Aren't we like that a little bit?
00:39:39.200 | I don't know how many people are willing to go into their office and be like, "You can
00:39:43.360 | pay me for 10.
00:39:44.360 | I'll give you 20 hours."
00:39:45.360 | You know what I mean?
00:39:47.160 | Nobody does that.
00:39:48.600 | Nobody does that.
00:39:49.600 | As a matter of fact, if they don't pay you for that extra hour you stay in the day, you're
00:39:53.000 | going to be like, "Time to look for another job."
00:39:56.400 | That's the way we would think.
00:39:58.400 | But Apostle Paul, when he thinks about his work, he's not demanding to get paid then
00:40:03.960 | and there.
00:40:04.960 | He's not demanding to get paid on earth.
00:40:07.080 | He's looking for God's simple approval.
00:40:11.240 | He's looking not for men's approval.
00:40:12.840 | He's not looking for compensation, kickback.
00:40:15.320 | And as a matter of fact, Apostle Paul says to many, many churches, "I could have asked
00:40:19.760 | you to contribute to me.
00:40:20.880 | I could have asked you for a wage.
00:40:22.280 | But I did none of that."
00:40:25.880 | To me, it's not just a simple like, "Oh, of course, planting pasture has to be like that."
00:40:30.440 | I don't think so.
00:40:32.400 | I think it indicated his humility and perspective towards his own work.
00:40:39.280 | Next, when you think about this next phrase in verse 9, "For we are God's fellow workers.
00:40:50.960 | You are God's field, God's building."
00:40:53.360 | Okay?
00:40:55.920 | Or, let me give you this one.
00:41:01.040 | The next blank I have is Apostle Paul's humble perspective about his success.
00:41:06.520 | About his success.
00:41:10.400 | Earlier someone mentioned that Apostle Paul views himself in the same light as his fellow
00:41:16.720 | teachers, right?
00:41:18.000 | Well, for me, when I read verse 8, it says, "Now he who plants and he who waters are one."
00:41:23.160 | Okay?
00:41:24.160 | Commentators have so many different views about this.
00:41:28.720 | And I was like, "Really?
00:41:29.840 | About that one statement?"
00:41:30.840 | And I do realize it's kind of nebulous.
00:41:32.920 | How are they one?
00:41:34.480 | Are they one in equal value?
00:41:36.560 | Are they one in purpose?
00:41:38.080 | Are they one simply because by nature of being part of one team, Jesus' team, being all a
00:41:44.040 | part of Jesus' master, boss, and then his workers' team?
00:41:50.280 | Is that how it's going to be?
00:41:52.120 | But for me, what's really interesting is I thought about this passage as thinking about
00:41:55.960 | his humble perspective about his success.
00:42:00.280 | Right?
00:42:02.600 | Because for him, he completely recognizes that each individual is only contributing
00:42:10.200 | to the greater goal under Christ.
00:42:13.280 | And so in so doing, the results, how it plays out, what they're contributing to, the success
00:42:18.080 | that they have, they all share in the exact same way.
00:42:22.080 | Okay?
00:42:23.080 | But now, I want to get to the main point.
00:42:25.240 | I'm going to get to the main point here.
00:42:29.160 | When I just read a moment ago verse 9, "For we are God's fellow workers, you are God's
00:42:33.680 | field, you are God's building," you realize now all of a sudden, there's like metaphors
00:42:39.960 | galore.
00:42:41.680 | So he started describing the whole gardening scene, he started describing the field scene,
00:42:45.680 | he started describing that, and then he says also building, like construction scene.
00:42:51.080 | I want to ask you this question.
00:42:53.280 | What do these metaphors really highlight?
00:42:59.920 | What are these metaphors meant to place in view for us?
00:43:18.640 | How about this table to my right?
00:43:48.600 | With Michelle, Jenny, and Jenny.
00:43:54.360 | Just take a stab.
00:43:55.960 | Be confident.
00:43:59.440 | What truth are these metaphors all trying to highlight?
00:44:03.680 | Nice.
00:44:05.800 | So she said God is the one who grows a church, God is the one who basically gives a church
00:44:14.760 | its success, right?
00:44:15.760 | God is the one who gives a church its growth.
00:44:19.040 | Absolutely.
00:44:21.160 | God is the focal point.
00:44:22.720 | And not only just generally about God, but the fact that God, in verse 9, what do you
00:44:27.920 | see as the three repetition?
00:44:32.160 | We're God's fellow workers, we're God's field, God's building.
00:44:36.880 | What do you notice?
00:44:46.720 | I heard a mumble so I'm looking over there, but I don't know who mumbled it.
00:44:52.880 | Absolutely.
00:44:54.040 | We belong to God.
00:44:56.960 | Okay?
00:44:58.040 | We belong to God.
00:45:00.600 | And so for that little Apostle Paul's humble perspective about God, there is a humble perspective
00:45:11.200 | you have, and in my mind, the most humble perspective is the perspective that's true
00:45:15.560 | to reality.
00:45:16.560 | The reality is we own nothing.
00:45:20.880 | What do you have that you do not receive from the Lord?
00:45:23.920 | What did you work for?
00:45:24.920 | What did you do with your hands that you create?
00:45:28.160 | Nothing.
00:45:30.280 | But I am God's, the field is God's, the building is God's, all of this is God's.
00:45:35.280 | If you're sitting here and trying to give credit, and by giving credit to a man, you
00:45:39.520 | also get to enjoy that credit, you just have reality all wrong.
00:45:45.000 | I think that's the point.
00:45:47.840 | If by elevating this man, if by joining that clan, you hope to somehow share in that glory
00:45:54.840 | of what they've built, what they've done, who they've taught, you've got reality all
00:46:00.200 | wrong.
00:46:01.200 | According to the Apostle Paul, all glory belongs to God because everything is his.
00:46:07.520 | So I think this is a good tie into what he's been teaching ever since chapter one.
00:46:16.200 | Right?
00:46:17.200 | By way of review, by way of review, in verse one through four, he was again battling and
00:46:24.720 | reiterating the idea that the men are struggling with the sin of division, both because of
00:46:30.640 | the external pressures of worldly wisdom and their internal flesh.
00:46:36.440 | Right?
00:46:38.200 | And so how does he combat that?
00:46:40.560 | The basic point in verses five through nine is, we are nothing, God is boss.
00:46:45.720 | Yeah?
00:46:46.720 | If you find jealousy in your heart, the sense in which you have to remind yourself, who
00:46:53.160 | am I that I think I deserve what that guy has?
00:46:58.080 | That's a good question, you know?
00:47:00.840 | Who do I think I am that I can demand of God and be unhappy that he didn't give me?
00:47:06.600 | When you find a jealous heart, we have to remember this truth.
00:47:10.360 | We are nothing, God is boss.
00:47:13.280 | I want to conclude by a little encouragement here.
00:47:18.000 | I do like the fact, and I'm encouraged by the fact, that in verse one of chapter three,
00:47:28.600 | he does say, "And I, brethren, could not speak to you as spiritual men, but as to men of
00:47:34.240 | the flesh, as to infants in Christ."
00:47:37.600 | The reason why I'm encouraged by that verse is because, although Apostle Paul could not
00:47:44.120 | speak to the men like mature adults, it seems that Apostle Paul spoke as a mature adult.
00:47:52.000 | Because he didn't speak as Lord over them, he spoke as a brother.
00:47:56.560 | He calls them brethren.
00:47:58.400 | And he recognizes that they are in Christ, but nonetheless, they're acting and behaving
00:48:04.440 | fleshly.
00:48:05.920 | Okay?
00:48:07.320 | In my mind, I'm encouraged by that because I'm reminded we are a work in progress.
00:48:13.400 | I'm reminded that God is changing us, but that change is going to take time.
00:48:17.840 | It's going to take constant reflection, village and prayer, and all of that, sobriety, and
00:48:23.440 | going to the Word.
00:48:26.040 | But Apostle Paul, again, in the way that he rebukes them, he has this interesting balance.
00:48:32.600 | Can he legitimately be frustrated with the people?
00:48:35.080 | Yeah.
00:48:36.080 | You know, he invested so much into them, but nonetheless, he doesn't come off like, "And
00:48:40.720 | therefore, be gone with you.
00:48:42.240 | I don't want to deal with you people anymore."
00:48:45.200 | He calls them brethren, he appeals to them, and he encourages them.
00:48:49.400 | You need to grow.
00:48:50.400 | Okay?
00:48:51.400 | So, I hope we're encouraged to do the same.
00:48:54.160 | You guys can jump into your small groups for discussion.
00:48:58.160 | You know, typical questions, were there anything that stood out to you?
00:49:02.680 | I have an interesting question here, letter D. How can you strive to have a legitimately
00:49:07.960 | strong and consistently mature practice of faith without being all arrogant about it?
00:49:16.880 | And I find that some people have a hard time with that.
00:49:18.880 | It's kind of like, they have a hard time, let's say, rebuking or correcting somebody
00:49:23.260 | the way Apostle Paul would, because they're always kind of on the lines of saying, "I
00:49:27.800 | know too, and we all struggle," and they almost always have to preface with like, "I'm the
00:49:33.200 | same boat you are.
00:49:34.720 | You know, we're just brothers, both like at the bottom of the wall, and we're climbing
00:49:38.200 | together."
00:49:39.200 | You know?
00:49:40.200 | But I don't necessarily think that has to be true either.
00:49:42.320 | There are people who are legitimately stronger in the faith than others, and there are people
00:49:46.760 | who legitimately have practiced righteousness, and so they have a practical, just, you know,
00:49:54.440 | greater application of living out of the faith.
00:49:58.120 | But how do you do that without getting all prideful?
00:50:01.280 | The other question that's not on here that you guys can talk about is, you know, in line
00:50:06.840 | with this, there's this concept of, if someone were to ask you, "So these people are described
00:50:12.200 | as carnal, like fleshly, but you're saying that they're still Christian.
00:50:16.400 | How can that be?"
00:50:19.400 | We know that, okay, that kind of anomaly and paradox exists in the Christian life.
00:50:25.080 | You're still in the flesh, but your spirit is new, and the Holy Spirit is in you, but
00:50:28.480 | you're still flesh, so it's like, you know, joining of the holy and the flesh and whatnot.
00:50:33.960 | How would you explain that to somebody?
00:50:36.280 | How would you explain the existence?
00:50:38.320 | And I know at our church, Pastor Peter, I've said so many times, like, "Yes, some people
00:50:41.520 | say there's nominal Christians, and there's plateauing Christians, and there's carnal
00:50:45.080 | Christians."
00:50:46.280 | You know, he's preached many times before, like, "That doesn't exist!
00:50:50.000 | You can't be carnal for all your life and then still call yourself Christian.
00:50:53.040 | How do you reconcile those thoughts is basically what I'm saying."
00:50:55.760 | You know what I mean?
00:50:56.840 | So, okay?
00:50:59.080 | Any questions about today's passage?
00:51:02.960 | About the summary is, "You are nothing, God is boss."
00:51:07.160 | Alright, let's pray, and then you guys can jump into your small group discussions.
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