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2015-05-21 Study of 1 Corinthians Week 5


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00:00:02.740 | the questions together.
00:00:05.820 | But I do hope that in your own time,
00:00:08.100 | you guys are able to really dive into those questions,
00:00:11.720 | 'cause I'm trying to use those questions now
00:00:13.620 | as also like major,
00:00:15.740 | setups for the major points that we are studying, okay?
00:00:20.460 | And to tell you honestly,
00:00:21.560 | sometimes coming up with these questions are pretty hard.
00:00:24.340 | Coming up with discussion questions is like extra difficult.
00:00:26.980 | If you guys have, like,
00:00:28.340 | as you're doing your own observation and stuff,
00:00:30.280 | email me through the week, like,
00:00:31.460 | "Hey, this seems really interesting
00:00:33.200 | "and hard to decide how to interpret."
00:00:36.660 | All your observations and questions,
00:00:38.060 | you can shoot me emails,
00:00:39.140 | and then I'll be sure to bring them up too in the study,
00:00:42.980 | okay?
00:00:44.140 | So again, for next week,
00:00:46.060 | if you guys are studying the passage,
00:00:48.580 | please email me, okay?
00:00:50.600 | Well, let's take a road
00:00:52.820 | of just kind of reviewing what's been happening
00:00:55.280 | by looking at the flow of thought, okay?
00:00:57.420 | So I'm not gonna say, "Oh, first is this,
00:00:59.100 | "then this is exactly this,"
00:01:00.380 | but looking more so at the flow of thought
00:01:02.980 | that's been happening with Apostle Paul
00:01:04.980 | writing this letter to the Corinthians.
00:01:07.900 | So these are all kind, some of them are really obvious,
00:01:11.420 | so I want you guys to just yell it out, okay?
00:01:14.740 | In the first section, as he opens this letter,
00:01:16.940 | he thanks God that they are.
00:01:26.420 | I saw all of you guys go over to write,
00:01:28.060 | but what did you guys write?
00:01:29.460 | He thanks God that they are?
00:01:32.300 | Saints, yeah, that they're saints and they're saved, okay?
00:01:35.460 | And then, in the next section,
00:01:39.300 | he quickly goes into, "But," this is what I hear,
00:01:42.540 | he hears that there are?
00:01:44.740 | Divisions among you, all right?
00:01:46.540 | Divisions among you.
00:01:47.820 | And he believes that these divisions exist
00:01:49.900 | because there is worldly,
00:01:51.500 | what was that?
00:01:55.360 | Worldly wisdom, okay?
00:01:58.280 | They have this worldly wisdom that's divisive,
00:02:01.300 | and typically, I mentioned that the worldly wisdom,
00:02:03.840 | typically, think about all the advice you get
00:02:06.240 | when you're young about how to date,
00:02:08.040 | what career to pick, and how to choose this path
00:02:10.320 | and that path, and it's all about becoming greater.
00:02:13.000 | There's a sense of pride, right?
00:02:15.000 | And I showed you that the topic of arrogance and pride
00:02:18.900 | came up in almost every chapter, right?
00:02:21.520 | And we just listed those off.
00:02:23.680 | And number four, Apostle Paul counteracts that
00:02:26.720 | by saying God's wisdom is superior.
00:02:31.160 | So what you have is him explaining to you,
00:02:33.680 | this is the difference between the world's wisdom
00:02:36.240 | and God's wisdom, and God's wisdom is permanent.
00:02:39.860 | God's wisdom is powerful, okay?
00:02:42.880 | And then, he not only talks about God's wisdom in general,
00:02:47.760 | but he points to the people and says,
00:02:49.560 | think about your humble,
00:02:52.440 | (audience member speaks off mic)
00:02:54.680 | close, beginning, or calling, okay?
00:02:58.880 | So that goes hand in hand.
00:03:01.760 | When you were called, what was your life circumstance, right?
00:03:04.480 | So you can say, think about your humble calling.
00:03:07.080 | And I made mention of this fact,
00:03:09.720 | Apostle Paul's kind of getting personal.
00:03:11.400 | He's like, so there's these divisions, huh?
00:03:13.520 | You guys are sitting there trying to one-up each other.
00:03:16.280 | You guys are saying, I'm of Apollos, and I'm of Paul.
00:03:18.360 | Some of you are saying, I'm just of Jesus only,
00:03:20.560 | 'cause I don't need any of you guys and all this stuff.
00:03:23.160 | And they have this arrogance, and he says,
00:03:25.560 | personally, think about yourself, right?
00:03:28.840 | Now, in so doing, Apostle Paul showed us
00:03:32.560 | that God functions upon completely different standards
00:03:36.360 | than the world.
00:03:37.280 | The world functions on stuff like strength,
00:03:40.440 | stature, birth order, nobility.
00:03:43.880 | And God, he says, his standards are,
00:03:45.800 | his wise standards come from things of righteousness,
00:03:48.880 | holiness, and redemption, right?
00:03:51.240 | In this last, or in this next section
00:03:54.600 | that we're gonna study today,
00:03:56.600 | he's still on this whole train of thought,
00:03:59.200 | and that's why we have to review.
00:04:01.320 | He's still in the train of thought,
00:04:03.280 | and in still talking about it, he says,
00:04:05.360 | okay, think about you, but now also think about my preaching.
00:04:10.360 | Okay?
00:04:11.400 | Think about my preaching to you.
00:04:12.960 | Like, how and what did I teach you when I preached to you?
00:04:19.060 | Okay?
00:04:20.420 | And this is the section that we're studying
00:04:22.660 | in verses one through five of chapter two,
00:04:25.180 | preaching God's wisdom, okay?
00:04:26.740 | And I wrote a little mark.
00:04:28.140 | I know, sorry, I had you guys study verses all up until 12,
00:04:32.060 | but lo and behold, we can only,
00:04:34.540 | I think we can only cover the first five verses.
00:04:36.380 | All right.
00:04:37.500 | So let's begin here by reading this section in verse two.
00:04:40.300 | I'm gonna read the whole section,
00:04:43.180 | a paragraph, verses one through five.
00:04:45.700 | And when I came to you, brethren,
00:04:47.780 | I did not come with superiority of speech or of wisdom,
00:04:51.180 | proclaiming to you the testimony of God.
00:04:53.780 | For I determined to know nothing among you
00:04:55.860 | except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
00:04:58.800 | I was with you in weakness and in fear
00:05:01.100 | and in much trembling, and my message and my preaching
00:05:03.940 | were not in persuasive words of wisdom,
00:05:05.800 | but in demonstration of the spirit and of power,
00:05:08.820 | so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men,
00:05:12.940 | but on the power of God.
00:05:15.420 | Okay?
00:05:16.500 | All right.
00:05:17.340 | In this section, we wanna begin with verse one.
00:05:20.180 | And he essentially, you know, as typically
00:05:22.180 | when you write an essay, the first sentence
00:05:23.780 | of the paragraph essentially gives you the punch.
00:05:26.420 | It gives you its proposition.
00:05:27.640 | And likewise, Apostle Paul does the same.
00:05:29.820 | He says, when I came to you, brethren,
00:05:31.180 | I did not come with superiority of speech or with wisdom,
00:05:34.580 | proclaiming to you the testimony of God.
00:05:37.840 | Now this is one of those verses where it's just plain.
00:05:40.540 | There's a simplicity to it.
00:05:44.500 | But I would like us to try and put it in our own words,
00:05:47.860 | so to speak.
00:05:48.800 | So let me ask you guys, in your own words,
00:05:51.940 | what is he simply trying to say?
00:05:53.540 | Anybody?
00:06:12.420 | This one's one of those, you know,
00:06:13.900 | just clear statements, hey, I'm,
00:06:15.820 | what's he saying, I'm,
00:06:18.540 | (laughs)
00:06:21.300 | I'm leaving it to you to just summarize for me.
00:06:24.120 | If you were to put it in your own lingo, so to speak,
00:06:26.260 | how would you say it?
00:06:27.300 | Great.
00:06:40.620 | Commenting at you plain and simple.
00:06:42.700 | Excellent.
00:06:43.540 | Anywhere else to put it?
00:06:44.380 | Or any, anywhere else to put it?
00:06:45.900 | He's just kinda saying,
00:06:53.180 | I actually haven't really been eloquent with you,
00:06:56.980 | but I just gave you the truth, right?
00:06:59.860 | And the reason why I'm saying this,
00:07:01.580 | in terms of asking you guys to kinda give me the obvious,
00:07:04.420 | I know it's a little awkward.
00:07:05.820 | (laughs)
00:07:06.700 | Those are always our most fearful.
00:07:07.980 | It's like, teacher asks you a,
00:07:10.220 | I was in seminary one time, and,
00:07:11.720 | you know, I was in the class for the book of Hebrews.
00:07:15.700 | Teacher looked at me, and he said,
00:07:17.100 | who do you think the book of Hebrews were written to?
00:07:20.180 | And I went, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, you know?
00:07:22.680 | It's too easy to say, I don't know.
00:07:25.100 | (laughs)
00:07:26.260 | And I said, pass.
00:07:27.900 | (laughs)
00:07:29.340 | It's like utter fail moment in my life.
00:07:31.300 | But sometimes it feels like that.
00:07:33.640 | But the reason why I'm asking you for an obvious answer
00:07:35.940 | is because sometimes the Bible's really plain and simple.
00:07:38.660 | But the fact of the matter is,
00:07:39.780 | I wanna ask you this question.
00:07:41.280 | There is a perspective to gain.
00:07:44.700 | It's a plain and simple statement.
00:07:46.100 | It's like, you know, I don't use the eloquence
00:07:49.680 | that all these other guys use.
00:07:51.340 | And although you might seek, some of you Greeks,
00:07:53.540 | the kind of philosophy and wisdom that your other,
00:07:56.580 | you know, orators and articulators might practice,
00:07:59.740 | I don't have that stuff.
00:08:01.140 | He could, actually, but he says,
00:08:02.820 | I'm not gonna do it like that.
00:08:03.940 | I just gave you the truth, plain and simple, right?
00:08:07.260 | And I think the thing about it is,
00:08:08.500 | though, as he's saying this, there is a perspective.
00:08:11.780 | There is a, what I like to call, worldview reality
00:08:15.580 | of what he is doing, how he paints himself.
00:08:18.900 | And so I wanna ask you this question,
00:08:20.780 | letter B in your packet,
00:08:21.860 | in what context do people give a testimony?
00:08:24.520 | What sort of context do people give a testimony?
00:08:28.660 | He says there, I came to you,
00:08:30.820 | I didn't use impurity of speech or wisdom,
00:08:32.980 | proclaim to you testimonies of God.
00:08:37.180 | In what context do people give testimonies?
00:08:39.820 | Courtroom, exactly, okay?
00:08:43.980 | And that's essentially what I would like you to envision.
00:08:46.780 | There is this kind of question, you know,
00:08:49.260 | Apostle Paul, you were kind of like a privileged few.
00:08:53.900 | You had an incredible education, you had nobility status,
00:08:58.460 | you had the greatest teachers.
00:09:00.140 | So essentially, if you think about it in our day,
00:09:01.780 | if you think of Harvard,
00:09:03.620 | and then the best professors at Harvard,
00:09:05.700 | he was mentored by them,
00:09:07.300 | and then here he is, speaking plainly,
00:09:09.500 | like somebody who wasn't, you know,
00:09:11.060 | just like average Joe, so to speak.
00:09:13.780 | And so you gotta ask, why?
00:09:15.980 | Well, in my mind, the why comes from him revealing the fact
00:09:19.260 | that he essentially says, what I'm doing
00:09:21.180 | is I'm giving a testimony of God.
00:09:24.020 | And when you think testimony, you think courtroom.
00:09:27.260 | As you guys know, and when I say as you guys know,
00:09:30.060 | people have said this a lot,
00:09:31.180 | and I know Pastor Peter has said it a bunch,
00:09:33.180 | that when you think testimony,
00:09:35.020 | there's a Greek word that basically is a root
00:09:39.060 | for where we get the term martyr.
00:09:41.860 | And that root is from the word that signifies a witness.
00:09:46.260 | Someone is giving a testimony as a witness.
00:09:48.980 | So we're called witnesses,
00:09:50.300 | which means we have a story to tell,
00:09:52.140 | but is it any old story?
00:09:53.580 | No.
00:09:55.520 | Does a witness go on the stand
00:09:58.780 | to give a dramatic presentation,
00:10:01.660 | and then they go off saying,
00:10:03.100 | and the sound was like whoosh, you know, whatever?
00:10:05.140 | No, they just need to give the what?
00:10:06.780 | The straight facts.
00:10:08.460 | They need to tell how it happened,
00:10:09.860 | exactly how it happened.
00:10:12.020 | Their job isn't to make the crowd
00:10:14.460 | as the audience of the courtroom
00:10:16.220 | to be wooed and wowed or the judge be impressed by you.
00:10:19.540 | You just need to give your statement.
00:10:23.100 | That Greek term is also sometimes used to signify a proof.
00:10:29.060 | Like if you were to have a case to make,
00:10:31.680 | and here is the proof behind it,
00:10:34.340 | sometimes that's the word that's used.
00:10:36.960 | So how does Apostle Paul view himself
00:10:39.740 | and perceive his reality when he is preaching?
00:10:42.280 | Does he see himself like the leaders of their day?
00:10:47.580 | The people might want, you know,
00:10:52.300 | the Hermes, the messengers,
00:10:54.300 | and they want the philosophers,
00:10:55.660 | they want the Aristotle's,
00:10:56.740 | and they want all these people.
00:10:59.260 | Apostle Paul dare not try to fill that role.
00:11:02.560 | What was his perspective, his worldview on his reality?
00:11:07.600 | He was a witness.
00:11:08.800 | He got slapped, you know, like knocked off his horse.
00:11:13.240 | He had a dramatic experience.
00:11:14.720 | I have a story to tell, and the story is Christ redeemed me.
00:11:19.360 | Christ saved me.
00:11:20.440 | I encountered the Lord, right?
00:11:23.180 | And so here is Apostle Paul saying,
00:11:25.800 | and remember the way I taught you.
00:11:29.560 | Think about what I was accomplishing, okay?
00:11:32.480 | And that's really important.
00:11:33.720 | So in this first verse, it's just a plain verse saying,
00:11:37.560 | I didn't use the stuff of the culture,
00:11:39.640 | I didn't use the stuff of eloquence,
00:11:42.040 | the purity of speech and wisdom,
00:11:43.920 | but I proclaim to you the testimony of God.
00:11:46.840 | But he gives us a greater reason
00:11:49.240 | why he did it the way he did.
00:11:51.360 | So let's take a look at the next verses.
00:11:53.360 | Oh, actually, ugh, sorry.
00:11:56.140 | Before we get there,
00:11:57.960 | I wanted to ask you this question.
00:12:00.600 | There's a sense in which a lot of verses
00:12:06.160 | actually are plain Jane and easy.
00:12:08.540 | There are a lot of verses that are hard.
00:12:10.080 | But I believe the vast majority of the scriptures,
00:12:13.560 | the important thing is God repeats in our plain.
00:12:16.440 | But isn't it true that sometimes it's hard to apply, right?
00:12:19.940 | Let's brainstorm a little bit.
00:12:22.680 | Just from this first verse,
00:12:24.540 | just from that kind of worldview of reality,
00:12:28.420 | what are some applications that can come
00:12:32.420 | from thinking like a apostle Paul thinks?
00:12:34.480 | - Be straightforward and witness.
00:12:48.140 | - Okay, when you witness to non-Christians,
00:12:51.060 | there's a sense in which you need
00:12:52.100 | to be quite straightforward, okay?
00:12:54.180 | What else?
00:12:55.020 | What else can you guys think of?
00:13:01.380 | Just from this straightforward verse,
00:13:03.740 | what are some applications that you guys can think of?
00:13:08.140 | Sorry, a little here and here, go ahead.
00:13:21.580 | - Everyone think about the gospel.
00:13:23.580 | - Okay, there's a sense in which everybody
00:13:25.900 | is equipped to share the gospel.
00:13:27.580 | Why, because every single one of you are witnesses.
00:13:30.220 | And that means you all have a story to tell, right?
00:13:35.220 | And so for the people who think evangelizing
00:13:37.980 | is very not much, meaning I'm getting real shy
00:13:40.100 | and I don't know what to say, I just mumble my words.
00:13:42.100 | So I'm gonna give them money, I'm gonna give support,
00:13:44.180 | but I just never wanna do it.
00:13:46.020 | You don't have to be a everyday street preacher,
00:13:49.320 | but you're a witness.
00:13:51.180 | You have a personal encounter, you have a story to tell.
00:13:53.860 | Okay, so everybody's equipped to share the gospel.
00:13:55.860 | What else?
00:13:56.700 | You actually don't have to fear not being eloquent.
00:14:03.500 | I think one of the greatest fears that people have
00:14:05.380 | is getting stuck, not knowing what to say, right?
00:14:09.380 | But what are some other applications
00:14:11.020 | that can just come from this?
00:14:12.660 | (audience member speaking faintly)
00:14:16.920 | Okay, good.
00:14:30.820 | So there is a place for apologetics.
00:14:34.020 | In this specific circumstance,
00:14:36.060 | that was not Paul's approach, right?
00:14:37.940 | Okay, yes?
00:14:40.580 | (audience member speaking faintly)
00:14:44.920 | Yeah.
00:14:59.760 | Right.
00:15:08.300 | (audience member speaking faintly)
00:15:12.640 | Right.
00:15:15.700 | So there is, your question is actually pretty huge.
00:15:18.960 | I can't answer it right now.
00:15:22.060 | That's not to say it's a bad question,
00:15:23.940 | it's a great question.
00:15:25.500 | Huh?
00:15:26.540 | Definitely, we'll go out to lunch, we'll talk.
00:15:28.460 | But just to, did you guys hear his question?
00:15:30.260 | It's like, how do you balance?
00:15:31.260 | And there is a balance.
00:15:32.420 | But let me say this, though.
00:15:37.460 | Hands down, I believe in the sufficiency of scripture.
00:15:41.740 | And there's a sense in which,
00:15:44.260 | should you know the revelation of God,
00:15:46.580 | you have all that is necessary to win a soul.
00:15:49.460 | Right?
00:15:51.340 | That's my personal take.
00:15:53.700 | But I'll also reference to some books.
00:15:56.940 | There's books that's just written on the topic
00:15:58.840 | of where is the place of apologetics
00:16:00.420 | in our Christian ministry.
00:16:01.580 | And there is a place, you know?
00:16:03.380 | There is a place of understanding
00:16:04.920 | both science, history, culture, social,
00:16:08.040 | you know, economics, all this kind of stuff
00:16:09.500 | in order to give a good defense of the Christian faith.
00:16:12.640 | But I also believe that, you know,
00:16:14.960 | the scriptures, when we say it's sufficient,
00:16:17.300 | I don't think of it as, oh, it's sufficient.
00:16:19.600 | I think of it as it's powerfully sufficient
00:16:22.160 | to overcome any thought, okay?
00:16:24.800 | All right.
00:16:25.640 | It's a great question.
00:16:26.640 | Mm-hmm.
00:16:29.960 | Mm-hmm.
00:16:34.240 | (audience member speaking indistinctly)
00:16:39.240 | Yeah.
00:16:42.080 | Well, that's not the only answer to that.
00:16:44.920 | That plays a role, but it's not the only answer to that.
00:16:47.480 | Yeah, but, you know,
00:16:50.160 | just kind of thinking about the question, though,
00:16:53.320 | a little bit about, you know, the application of this,
00:16:56.640 | I think, let me put it this way.
00:17:00.480 | You know, for me, I really think that
00:17:02.920 | one of the easier ways to apply this,
00:17:04.680 | and for me, you know, I'm an individual
00:17:06.520 | that's ultra-cautious of my words.
00:17:09.040 | When I was, you know, my very first year
00:17:11.880 | in preaching, almost every single sermon that I gave,
00:17:14.920 | I had a full-on manuscript that I almost,
00:17:16.800 | like, kind of memorized.
00:17:18.400 | It was like 12 pages, and that was bad, okay?
00:17:20.520 | That was a bad way to do it,
00:17:22.080 | but because I'm ultra-cautious,
00:17:23.800 | and I always had this fear of, man,
00:17:26.720 | how do I, you know, communicate in a way that's winsome?
00:17:31.560 | That's important, but to me, the application of this,
00:17:34.960 | and in line with what you're saying is,
00:17:37.080 | I'm trying to shoot for clarity.
00:17:38.800 | Clarity.
00:17:41.880 | And to shoot for clarity, I just need to be
00:17:43.720 | super-duper accurate to reality,
00:17:46.360 | spiritual reality, to the Bible.
00:17:49.240 | I don't need to necessarily overcome
00:17:51.080 | every single argument of the guy that's talking to me.
00:17:54.160 | I approach it with my apologics the way I do it is,
00:17:57.080 | he might throw at me 50 questions,
00:17:59.280 | but for me, I just need to have this guy
00:18:01.640 | clearly understand spiritual reality,
00:18:03.840 | so I'm only going to tell him what I think
00:18:05.640 | is going to help him be clear and accurate to scripture.
00:18:10.140 | So my ultimate goal in my speaking,
00:18:13.320 | in evangelizing, in counseling,
00:18:16.440 | I want you to understand accurately what God sees.
00:18:20.320 | My goal is not to answer all your 100 questions.
00:18:23.280 | I'm not your, you know, whatever that is,
00:18:25.640 | the little, like, wind-up, yeah, I'm not Siri.
00:18:28.800 | So, that being the case, that's how I reconcile
00:18:32.040 | some of the difference between the two.
00:18:33.880 | I am, I want to be ready to, you know,
00:18:36.360 | take hold of every false thought and, you know,
00:18:39.560 | all that kind of stuff, but my goal ultimately is,
00:18:41.880 | I just need to have you accurately understand what God says.
00:18:45.320 | But this one verse has a lot to say, you know,
00:18:52.920 | has a lot to say.
00:18:54.280 | Well, let's move on a little bit.
00:18:56.840 | And, again, Apostle Paul, through this paragraph,
00:19:01.840 | conveys to us further reason and rationale.
00:19:04.600 | You know, he's trying to explain to them,
00:19:07.640 | I want you to consider my preaching,
00:19:11.320 | and there is an important reason why I did what I did,
00:19:14.720 | okay, which is to speak to you plainly,
00:19:17.080 | without eloquence and without persuasive speech.
00:19:20.080 | And this is what he says.
00:19:21.800 | For I determined to know nothing among you
00:19:23.680 | except Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
00:19:26.760 | I was with you in weakness, and in fear,
00:19:30.120 | and in much trembling, and my message and my preaching
00:19:32.680 | were not in persuasive words of wisdom,
00:19:34.840 | but in demonstration of the spirit and of power,
00:19:37.640 | so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men,
00:19:42.080 | but on the power of God.
00:19:44.240 | Again, it's in there, it's in the paragraph,
00:19:47.600 | I know it's obvious, but please answer for us.
00:19:50.800 | Why does he not use eloquence?
00:19:54.400 | Why, when he is a smart guy, you look at the scriptures,
00:19:57.400 | you look at what he's writing,
00:19:59.240 | and it's penned through Apostle Paul,
00:20:01.320 | and it's incredibly eloquent.
00:20:02.840 | As a matter of fact, if you ever have outlined his letters,
00:20:06.160 | it's incredibly structured,
00:20:07.680 | his arguments are always supported,
00:20:10.120 | there is an outline or a structure
00:20:11.740 | to all the things that he's saying,
00:20:13.880 | but there's a sense in which, in certain cases,
00:20:16.360 | in moments when he's preaching,
00:20:17.600 | he will choose to not use eloquence,
00:20:21.960 | the question is why?
00:20:23.060 | So what do you see there in the paragraph?
00:20:29.680 | Why does he choose to speak in such ways?
00:20:31.820 | - He wants to make sure that Christ is there
00:20:35.280 | and foundation for the faith, nothing else.
00:20:37.320 | - Excellent, he wants to make absolutely sure
00:20:40.980 | that their faith is not based on anything shaky.
00:20:45.040 | He wants to make sure that their faith
00:20:46.640 | is founded upon Christ, the solid rock, right?
00:20:50.280 | And he's so concerned about that.
00:20:52.040 | And so as he's speaking here,
00:20:54.760 | he explains in multiple ways,
00:20:56.640 | not just one way or two ways,
00:20:57.920 | but he repeats himself, saying about how my message
00:21:00.720 | and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom,
00:21:03.720 | right, but in the demonstration of spirit and power,
00:21:06.920 | and so he says, I want you to make sure
00:21:10.240 | that your faith is grounded on the right thing.
00:21:13.360 | Well, that's something, again,
00:21:14.440 | if you've been a Christian more than a year or two,
00:21:16.280 | that's something you've heard, right?
00:21:18.880 | That your faith needs to be grounded on the right thing.
00:21:21.720 | That your practice of coming to church,
00:21:25.360 | your practice of being involved
00:21:26.920 | and participating in the membership of Berean
00:21:28.840 | or whatever church you may go to and all that stuff,
00:21:31.680 | that it's grounded on the right thing.
00:21:34.240 | But I want to ask you guys,
00:21:35.780 | practically, in living it out,
00:21:40.520 | what would be an example of somebody
00:21:43.000 | whose faith is not grounded on Christ
00:21:45.280 | but is grounded on the wisdom of men?
00:21:47.120 | So let's try to flesh it out.
00:21:51.800 | Like, in reality, what would this look like?
00:21:54.680 | Or I guess in, you know,
00:21:55.940 | in observable expression, you know,
00:21:59.760 | in action, how would this look like
00:22:03.600 | if somebody is grounded on the wisdom of men
00:22:07.080 | as opposed to the wisdom of God?
00:22:08.680 | (audience member speaking indistinctly)
00:22:36.600 | Okay, so if you guys didn't hear her,
00:22:39.600 | that's a great example and I think it covers a lot.
00:22:42.620 | She said there are people who experience difficulties
00:22:45.280 | in their lives, hard circumstances,
00:22:47.360 | and in those moments, a lot of people turn not to God,
00:22:50.600 | spiritual things, but perhaps just counsel from people.
00:22:53.820 | Perhaps like, what did you do, you know?
00:22:56.520 | And sometimes there are so many different,
00:23:00.680 | you know, so many different counsel that people receive.
00:23:05.200 | There are people who will counsel, get away for a while,
00:23:08.680 | try to forget about it,
00:23:10.120 | as though that's gonna solve anything.
00:23:12.240 | There are people who get different counsels like,
00:23:14.480 | you know, if you, you know, wanna resolve this,
00:23:17.320 | you gotta, you know, take it by the horns
00:23:19.240 | and you just bull those things, just get through it,
00:23:21.640 | you know, does that really take care of situations?
00:23:25.060 | Is that what God is saying in Scripture?
00:23:27.820 | Okay, what else?
00:23:29.440 | (faint talking)
00:23:32.100 | - You feel like basing your standard based on rules,
00:23:39.120 | why don't you, like, if you go to church
00:23:41.240 | like one time a year for Christmas,
00:23:42.960 | and you tell your non-religious co-workers,
00:23:45.360 | like, man, you're pretty religious.
00:23:47.320 | - Right. - I mean, well, I guess I am.
00:23:49.880 | - So, do you guys hear him?
00:23:50.960 | Like, there is an assessment sometimes
00:23:53.760 | that's really just faulty, and that's a key word here,
00:23:56.160 | assessment, evaluation, okay?
00:23:59.520 | Remember, God evaluates on a different standard.
00:24:02.920 | So many times I have seen stuff like that,
00:24:05.640 | where, you know, Kevin said, maybe, you know,
00:24:08.920 | there's co-workers, a guy goes to church once a year,
00:24:12.240 | and then his other co-worker's like,
00:24:13.700 | oh, you're like crazy religious
00:24:15.360 | 'cause you go to church on Easter, you know?
00:24:17.560 | Well, funny thing is, you don't know how many times,
00:24:21.720 | you know, you sit down with somebody
00:24:23.680 | and you ask them about their Christian walk,
00:24:25.420 | and they're like, yeah, right now I'm doing okay,
00:24:28.040 | and then I'll ask them about, well, what about your past?
00:24:30.200 | Like, how did you become saved,
00:24:31.440 | and how did you meet the Lord?
00:24:32.360 | And it's like, I've always been a Christian,
00:24:34.360 | because my parents were Christian,
00:24:36.120 | and my parents told me this was the right thing to do.
00:24:38.720 | And then I'll ask them,
00:24:39.540 | so when did you take that Christian faith,
00:24:41.880 | that stuff that your parents taught you,
00:24:43.280 | and make that your own, like, this is my faith.
00:24:45.560 | I believe it, I surrender to Christ, I repent, I believe,
00:24:49.080 | I trust in God's promises.
00:24:51.320 | And they're kinda like, what are you talking about?
00:24:53.680 | It's always been mine, you know?
00:24:56.260 | And I'm like, no, if, you know,
00:24:59.900 | faith is like a house that your parents leave you
00:25:02.740 | as an inheritance, then sure,
00:25:05.220 | but this is supposed to be a reconciling with God,
00:25:08.960 | where has that been?
00:25:10.020 | See, sometimes the parents have taught their children,
00:25:14.420 | having a religious facet of your life
00:25:16.100 | is really good for you.
00:25:17.580 | And so, in evaluation of my life, I'm fine.
00:25:20.260 | I'm doing all right, says the guy,
00:25:21.540 | because I've been in it all my life.
00:25:24.120 | Is your faith grounded on Christ,
00:25:26.720 | or is your faith grounded on what your parents
00:25:28.260 | taught you was good for you, you know?
00:25:30.440 | Well, what I'm talking about is getting back to this idea
00:25:34.660 | of how the world evaluates what's good for you,
00:25:37.440 | what's better for you.
00:25:38.880 | And the world is always about self-improvement.
00:25:41.240 | The world is always, always about, yes, you can.
00:25:44.120 | And there's a sense in which evaluating that
00:25:46.260 | is incredibly difficult.
00:25:48.700 | Evaluating that becomes incredibly muddy,
00:25:52.400 | especially when it happens in the context of religiosity.
00:25:55.880 | And so, think about that for us for a moment,
00:25:59.000 | and try to dig a little bit into that question.
00:26:02.660 | What would be an example of someone whose faith
00:26:04.860 | rests on the wisdom of men?
00:26:06.920 | Perhaps individuals who are in the Christian culture,
00:26:11.280 | or in the Christian circles,
00:26:12.980 | trying to use the Christian environment
00:26:15.520 | as a means to stand out,
00:26:17.960 | have a sense of notoriety, you know?
00:26:19.880 | Have a sense of purpose?
00:26:22.160 | Have a sense of meaning?
00:26:23.460 | Is that resting on, your faith resting on that of Christ,
00:26:29.600 | or is your faith resting on certain ambitions,
00:26:32.600 | certain belief systems that tell you
00:26:34.600 | this is good for my life?
00:26:36.120 | Does that make sense?
00:26:37.160 | So again, it's not limited to that,
00:26:40.040 | 'cause again, the worldly wisdom is broad,
00:26:41.600 | and what Apostle Paul is tackling is broad.
00:26:44.140 | But I felt like we needed to give some detail
00:26:46.800 | to what he's talking about there.
00:26:49.240 | So, in thinking about this, though,
00:26:52.600 | Apostle Paul is concerned
00:26:56.800 | that if he uses eloquence,
00:27:00.280 | they might come for the wrong reasons.
00:27:03.640 | Let me ask you a question.
00:27:05.080 | What would be the result of people's faith
00:27:08.240 | being based upon a preacher's eloquence?
00:27:11.680 | Where people go to church because there's a,
00:27:13.400 | you know, standout figure, a Christian celebrity.
00:27:15.640 | People choose a church and go there
00:27:17.040 | because that person, obviously,
00:27:18.960 | has the spirits working there, 'cause it's huge, right?
00:27:22.680 | What would be the result of someone going
00:27:25.680 | purely for that reason?
00:27:26.840 | Yes?
00:27:32.920 | - They'll get tired of it, and they'll go somewhere else
00:27:34.720 | because they eventually get to know it.
00:27:37.680 | - Exactly.
00:27:39.120 | Time will tell.
00:27:40.320 | You know, time will tell.
00:27:43.920 | And that's something that, you know, as a young guy,
00:27:47.040 | I've been kinda like learning a little bit,
00:27:50.360 | and I still need to learn that a lot.
00:27:52.600 | There are days when, because I'm a young guy,
00:27:54.960 | I'm like, oh, this guy's gonna be a leader.
00:27:56.960 | Let's invest into him, and let's give him position,
00:27:59.800 | and move him along.
00:28:01.320 | But you know, time will tell.
00:28:03.280 | Other times, this guy's just not moving,
00:28:05.280 | you slow, humongous glacier.
00:28:07.800 | I'm gonna leave you, you know?
00:28:10.240 | But time will tell.
00:28:12.560 | Stuff like that, I mean, there's,
00:28:14.160 | there's an element in which you have to give things time.
00:28:18.360 | Well, aside from that side note,
00:28:20.600 | the fact of the matter is, in due time,
00:28:23.080 | if they're there for the wrong reasons,
00:28:25.680 | that will also be revealed, okay?
00:28:28.440 | And what will be revealed is,
00:28:30.840 | much of what Jesus Christ says in the book of Matthew,
00:28:33.280 | chapter 10, you guys do all this stuff,
00:28:36.200 | but you just don't know me.
00:28:40.040 | And what Christ says is, away from me, I don't know you.
00:28:42.840 | And so, if you look at that,
00:28:46.120 | if you look at all that in light of this,
00:28:48.920 | you think, why, you know?
00:28:50.280 | Why does he choose not to do this?
00:28:52.000 | And why does he choose not to do that?
00:28:54.080 | And why is he doing this, and why is he doing that?
00:28:56.680 | For me, that is why verse two is there.
00:28:58.920 | For when he says, for I determine to know nothing among you
00:29:02.920 | except Jesus Christ and him crucified,
00:29:05.040 | it's because he doesn't want anybody's faith
00:29:09.040 | to be based on all this extra fluff, right?
00:29:13.880 | Now, we have to take a moment to evaluate this verse,
00:29:18.960 | verse two, because in recent history,
00:29:21.360 | meaning like in the last two, three years,
00:29:23.320 | four, five years, it's become like a significant passage
00:29:27.600 | and a point of great debate in the Christian world, okay?
00:29:31.160 | So, in light of why he doesn't use eloquence
00:29:34.840 | and stuff like that, how would you personally interpret
00:29:38.240 | and apply this verse?
00:29:39.320 | For I determine to know nothing among you
00:29:41.360 | except Jesus Christ and him crucified, okay?
00:29:45.600 | And I give you some options here.
00:29:47.920 | There is Paul, he's simply saying,
00:29:49.920 | maybe like, you know, Eric, you gave a case
00:29:52.600 | in which somebody is evangelizing,
00:29:55.200 | the other guy's like, yeah, but what about evolution?
00:29:57.120 | And he's like, forget evolution, you just need Jesus,
00:29:59.480 | you know, and then all he says is Jesus,
00:30:01.520 | that's all you need, right?
00:30:03.280 | There's another example, Jesus Christ and the crucifixion
00:30:06.280 | are foundational to godly wisdom, so that's your foundation,
00:30:08.840 | everything starts from there, so let's start from there
00:30:10.800 | and let's begin there and focus there.
00:30:13.120 | Another one, Jesus and redemptive sacrifice
00:30:15.040 | should be the only thing we teach.
00:30:17.000 | Teaching commandments, teaching expectations of holiness,
00:30:19.280 | teaching works, teaching deeds, unbiblical, why?
00:30:21.520 | 'Cause apostle Paul determined to know nothing
00:30:23.840 | but Christ and Christ crucified.
00:30:25.440 | Another one is Paul saying,
00:30:27.520 | I only preach evangelistic sermons.
00:30:30.080 | When we preach sermons, we have to preach
00:30:32.120 | what will save people, Jesus and crucifixion,
00:30:35.320 | the redemptive theme, the theme of redemption
00:30:39.400 | in every sermon.
00:30:40.640 | There are other interpretations too that can come,
00:30:42.920 | or applications that can come.
00:30:44.480 | But what do you guys think?
00:30:49.360 | If you guys can try to like sum it up in your own way,
00:30:56.260 | what does he mean by determined to know nothing
00:30:59.600 | but Christ and him crucified?
00:31:04.520 | Yes.
00:31:05.360 | >> I think it's partly about the content,
00:31:08.360 | the key aspect of the content of what he speaks,
00:31:11.520 | is Christ and him crucified.
00:31:13.640 | But I think he goes much further than that
00:31:15.360 | because he says, I decided to know nothing among you
00:31:19.280 | except Christ and him crucified.
00:31:21.680 | So in the context of talking about
00:31:24.080 | how all this other wisdom has been demolished,
00:31:27.480 | he's saying that I'm gonna throw out this old worldview,
00:31:30.400 | this old way of, this old starting point,
00:31:33.160 | and now I have a new starting point,
00:31:34.720 | which is Christ and him crucified.
00:31:36.960 | And I have to rethink everything that I believe and do
00:31:41.520 | and base it all on the core of the gospel.
00:31:45.160 | >> Great.
00:31:46.000 | I hope you guys heard him 'cause it was great.
00:31:49.280 | [laughs]
00:31:50.480 | I'm not gonna repeat all that he said, okay?
00:31:53.800 | Good.
00:31:54.640 | Yeah, I think if you look at it in context,
00:31:58.080 | you know, there is such a huge contrast
00:32:00.120 | between the old wisdom and this new wisdom
00:32:02.440 | and this new wisdom has at its core foundation,
00:32:05.760 | Jesus Christ and him crucified.
00:32:08.120 | And Christ being crucified is truly
00:32:11.120 | the wisdom and power of God.
00:32:13.160 | And it stumbles, you know,
00:32:14.960 | it stumbles these religious higher ups
00:32:17.760 | and it stumbles the Greeks and the Jews all alike, you know?
00:32:20.900 | But by saying that the foundation is laid there
00:32:24.880 | and by saying that the core of the wisdom of God is there,
00:32:27.240 | definitely we do not take this to an overstatement of
00:32:31.640 | and so therefore, Apostle Paul has denounced
00:32:34.920 | the teaching of other commandments
00:32:36.240 | or denounced the teaching of imperatives, okay?
00:32:39.280 | And I am talking about there has been a movement to,
00:32:42.440 | not the whole movement, it's been good.
00:32:44.600 | To focus on the gospel isn't good, is good.
00:32:47.400 | But there have been some who have made
00:32:48.760 | a sloppy application to say,
00:32:50.600 | and so therefore, let's make a rule.
00:32:52.400 | Every sermon has to have the gospel proper.
00:32:56.160 | Everything that we teach, how we counsel Christians,
00:32:59.520 | how we evangelize the lost,
00:33:01.520 | and all that has to look a certain way
00:33:03.800 | and has to have certain verbiage in there.
00:33:06.440 | But the fact of the matter is,
00:33:08.000 | the gospel of God really is,
00:33:11.760 | it can have a broad context of the truth and wisdom
00:33:14.980 | of God's saving graces, you know?
00:33:17.680 | And so I just wanted to make a note of it
00:33:19.320 | because I've seen it used,
00:33:21.400 | I've seen it applied a bit sloppily.
00:33:23.700 | But for me, the point of it really comes back
00:33:26.320 | to something important.
00:33:28.320 | And I ask in letter C,
00:33:30.640 | what was Apostle Paul trying to, whoa.
00:33:34.080 | How does that read in your,
00:33:37.240 | (laughs)
00:33:38.480 | it's like the craziest phobie mistake
00:33:40.880 | I think I've made so far.
00:33:42.020 | I can't even read it 'cause it's like throwing me off.
00:33:44.960 | Okay, what is this trying to say here?
00:33:46.800 | What was he trying to avoid, okay?
00:33:50.760 | I left out a verb.
00:33:52.480 | What was he trying to avoid
00:33:54.600 | by determining to know nothing other than Christ?
00:33:56.920 | What was he so concerned about?
00:33:58.560 | And we said it earlier, he was so concerned
00:34:01.040 | that their faith would be based on his eloquence
00:34:04.040 | and not the truth.
00:34:05.720 | And so that's why, and if you think about that,
00:34:08.840 | verse three is there.
00:34:12.160 | I was with you in weakness,
00:34:13.840 | and in fear, and in much trembling, right?
00:34:18.820 | What was Apostle Paul's weakness?
00:34:22.840 | What was his fear?
00:34:24.680 | What was his trembling?
00:34:26.720 | Was it a physical trembling?
00:34:30.120 | Was he a guy who had a speech impediment and he stuttered?
00:34:34.520 | Was he a guy who was a nervous wreck
00:34:36.080 | when he was in front of people 'cause he was too shy?
00:34:38.760 | I ask these questions, but we've already mentioned
00:34:44.720 | the answer that's been quite obvious
00:34:46.920 | throughout the whole passage.
00:34:48.680 | But I wanna highlight something here, okay?
00:34:52.400 | Apostle Paul is so concerned
00:34:55.200 | that their foundation be Christ,
00:34:57.560 | I believe that is the reason why he is in fear and trembling.
00:35:00.560 | We know for a fact Apostle Paul's not afraid
00:35:03.640 | to lose his own life, 'cause he just keeps going back
00:35:06.160 | after being beaten.
00:35:07.440 | He just keeps going.
00:35:08.520 | It's like, dang, you just got stoned.
00:35:11.060 | You could go another way, you know?
00:35:14.960 | But he goes back.
00:35:16.660 | We know he's not afraid of being isolated and imprisoned.
00:35:19.600 | He will go gladly where the gospel leads him,
00:35:22.400 | to preach to the lost, to go where the gospel is needed.
00:35:26.280 | He's not in fear and trembling for his own neck.
00:35:29.480 | But something that you notice in the passage,
00:35:33.000 | he says, "I was,"
00:35:35.120 | and there's a little prepositional phrase, "with you."
00:35:39.360 | His concern is for them.
00:35:42.440 | His concern is for their well-being.
00:35:46.640 | For me, I wish that my understanding of spiritual reality,
00:35:51.480 | my worldview of reality,
00:35:53.400 | would impact my view of people such that
00:35:56.460 | the drastic weight of the result,
00:35:59.000 | the consequence of your faith being grounded
00:36:01.440 | on something other than Christ, right,
00:36:04.680 | would move me to the degree
00:36:06.480 | that I would have fear and trembling.
00:36:09.920 | The weightiness and seriousness of what I preach to you,
00:36:13.560 | and the result, if I veil the truth by my eloquence,
00:36:18.560 | if I adulterate this by my showmanship,
00:36:21.920 | he's trembling.
00:36:25.100 | And the weakness he has is the weakness with the gospel,
00:36:29.120 | with the people.
00:36:30.240 | And it makes sense.
00:36:32.640 | Right?
00:36:34.860 | It makes sense to me.
00:36:36.440 | Why would division be the first thing he addresses
00:36:39.320 | when there's stuff like incest,
00:36:41.760 | and stuff like immorality,
00:36:43.280 | and stuff like suing each other?
00:36:46.680 | Because as a pastor, his heart is for his people.
00:36:51.240 | He loves them to the degree
00:36:54.120 | that it's causing him this great fear and trembling.
00:36:59.160 | That's what I'm saying.
00:37:00.880 | He is the pastor who planted this church.
00:37:03.240 | He is the first pastor they had,
00:37:04.760 | and he was with them the longest.
00:37:07.040 | He loves them to the degree, and he says,
00:37:08.800 | "I am so concerned that your faith
00:37:11.480 | "would be grounded on something else,
00:37:12.400 | "and that's why I am determined to speak in such a way
00:37:15.100 | "to you, to give you the clarity of truth."
00:37:17.520 | So, how dare you guys divide amongst yourselves
00:37:23.800 | by loving worldly wisdom,
00:37:26.560 | trying, you know, being the forerunners of saying,
00:37:30.600 | "I am better, I am better."
00:37:32.960 | How dare you, you know?
00:37:35.160 | And I think that's the pastoral heart coming out
00:37:37.480 | with Apostle Paul saying this paragraph,
00:37:40.100 | "Remember my preaching to you guys."
00:37:43.280 | And he wants them to remember his intent
00:37:45.360 | in the preaching as well.
00:37:47.640 | Does that make sense?
00:37:48.680 | All right, so by way of conclusion,
00:37:52.480 | because Apostle Paul desired, right,
00:37:55.160 | and that's an understatement,
00:37:56.600 | how deeply he was committed, devoted, and determined
00:38:01.240 | that their faith would rest upon the wisdom
00:38:03.840 | and power of God,
00:38:05.360 | he preached clearly and accurately the truth, right?
00:38:09.360 | Without fluff, without eloquence,
00:38:11.960 | without persuasiveness of speech,
00:38:13.940 | but in its plain, plain form, okay?
00:38:16.960 | All right, any questions about this passage?
00:38:20.400 | Or thoughts?
00:38:24.600 | Yes?
00:38:26.800 | - Just one quick one.
00:38:28.200 | So, without eloquence and all that,
00:38:30.160 | why do you need to teach a seminary,
00:38:34.080 | why do you need to take a preaching course
00:38:36.640 | and spend all these hours practicing what you preach?
00:38:40.600 | - Well, number one,
00:38:43.240 | Apostle Paul made very, very clear.
00:38:46.400 | He says give attention to the reading of scripture,
00:38:48.840 | to exhortation.
00:38:49.920 | Pastor Peter just recently preached
00:38:52.960 | whether in Caesar and in Attasidon,
00:38:54.120 | preached the word of God.
00:38:55.560 | But he also taught that the man who preaches,
00:38:58.960 | he has to be able to accurately divide the word of God.
00:39:01.560 | Right?
00:39:02.840 | So, there's a sense in which, yes,
00:39:07.040 | can anybody as a priesthood of saints
00:39:09.960 | read the Bible, understand, and be able to share?
00:39:12.920 | Yeah.
00:39:13.980 | But you have to realize there is a difference
00:39:15.480 | because God has given very specific instruction
00:39:18.000 | that there be preaching in the congregation.
00:39:20.640 | So there's a time actually I wondered,
00:39:22.840 | why do we do this?
00:39:23.680 | Like, the pulpit, why is this the main attraction on Sunday?
00:39:28.160 | You know, this takes 45 minutes, an hour.
00:39:31.520 | You know, there was a movement called
00:39:32.720 | the Emerging Church Movement
00:39:33.640 | where they tried to do away with it, right?
00:39:35.600 | They just gathered everybody in a huge big circle.
00:39:37.640 | They said, "We're gonna have a talk.
00:39:39.560 | "And we're gonna discuss stuff."
00:39:40.920 | And everybody kind of got a chance.
00:39:42.640 | And they wanted to get rid of the high church feel
00:39:46.080 | of like, here's the pastor on the pulpit preaching.
00:39:49.040 | But the fact of the matter is,
00:39:50.120 | scripture is really clear that the preaching
00:39:53.780 | and exhortation of the word of God
00:39:55.860 | needs to be done both in, again, accuracy,
00:39:58.240 | it needs to be rightly divided,
00:39:59.360 | and needs to be done by men who are trained,
00:40:01.880 | tested, and have godly character.
00:40:03.780 | So in order to do that, there has to be training, you know?
00:40:07.600 | So yes, there is a sense in which
00:40:10.440 | he is saying, I'm not using eloquence,
00:40:15.680 | but he's not talking about in broad brush stroke,
00:40:20.360 | any kind of speech that has an element of,
00:40:24.160 | I don't know, like refined, you know,
00:40:26.360 | talking or definitive talk.
00:40:28.760 | That's all bad, that's not what he's saying.
00:40:30.640 | He's saying resting on worldly wisdom.
00:40:33.240 | And especially in their context,
00:40:34.720 | where they loved eloquence,
00:40:36.280 | they loved guys who'd come over
00:40:38.120 | and throw out new and innovative talk,
00:40:40.960 | throw out new and innovative theories,
00:40:43.080 | talk about meaning of life,
00:40:44.680 | give them something to peruse about,
00:40:46.440 | they loved that stuff.
00:40:47.900 | They had debaters and philosophers,
00:40:49.440 | that was their profession in life, you know what I mean?
00:40:53.100 | So that being the case, Paul made sure,
00:40:55.560 | because of the context he's in,
00:40:57.160 | I'm not gonna use any of that,
00:40:59.000 | but I'm going to give to you what's true and clear
00:41:01.360 | and accurate to God.
00:41:02.520 | So, yes.
00:41:04.500 | (audience member speaking)
00:41:09.620 | It sounds like Paul's kind of supportive of the church,
00:41:14.620 | and the kids were inviting people from different faiths
00:41:17.900 | to show them that's wrong.
00:41:20.520 | (audience member speaking)
00:41:24.100 | (audience member speaking)
00:41:27.680 | (audience member speaking)
00:41:31.260 | (audience member speaking)
00:41:37.840 | (audience member speaking)
00:41:43.340 | (audience member speaking)
00:41:46.920 | Right.
00:41:56.320 | (audience member speaking)
00:41:59.980 | Right.
00:42:02.640 | Okay.
00:42:04.240 | Yeah, so I mean, this would be good
00:42:06.040 | for you guys to discuss too.
00:42:07.620 | The question is a good one,
00:42:09.880 | and what you say is a good one too.
00:42:10.980 | Given the context, there's a certain way we speak.
00:42:14.100 | But definitely, we're trying to apply a principle,
00:42:19.000 | and we have to make sure that we apply the principles
00:42:21.840 | in the parameters of scripture,
00:42:25.120 | and the kind of balance that scripture gives too.
00:42:27.920 | You know, Apostle Paul, remember we learned,
00:42:31.080 | he is not using worldly wisdom,
00:42:32.840 | and he's not using worldly eloquence,
00:42:34.800 | but he is using a kind of speech
00:42:37.100 | that's pleading with the people,
00:42:38.400 | and he's winning them over, right?
00:42:40.840 | So there is a balance in that too,
00:42:42.720 | that we have to recognize.
00:42:43.800 | But I like what you said, that given the context,
00:42:46.240 | he's getting at them at the core of where they're wrestling,
00:42:48.960 | he's getting at them at the core of their pride,
00:42:51.360 | and he's in the moment where he's rebuking them, you know?
00:42:55.040 | So again, context kind of dictates sometimes how you speak.
00:42:58.720 | Good, any other questions?
00:43:00.520 | Okay, then I hope you guys have a good time in small group,
00:43:02.480 | let me pray for us, and then we'll wrap up.
00:43:05.320 | Father God, we want to thank you, Lord.
00:43:07.280 | God, I pray, Lord, that for us as Christians,
00:43:14.400 | the stuff that's attractive would not be the same thing
00:43:18.000 | that the world finds attractive.
00:43:20.160 | Lord, the world finds attractive, you know,
00:43:24.600 | stature, physical beauty, reputation, high education,
00:43:29.600 | and the accomplishments that, in our foolish minds,
00:43:34.640 | think in this world and in this lifetime took a long time.
00:43:38.300 | God, I pray and hope that our evaluation
00:43:43.800 | of what is attractive, or what is powerful,
00:43:47.000 | or what is good, would come truly
00:43:49.620 | through the lens of scripture.
00:43:51.280 | And Lord, that not only would be able
00:43:53.360 | to evaluate appropriately, God,
00:43:56.000 | then that would turn then into us
00:43:57.640 | not seeking to accomplish those things,
00:44:00.360 | but rather, God, that we would be desiring
00:44:02.260 | to accomplish the things that are spiritually weighty,
00:44:06.040 | the things that matter,
00:44:07.200 | and the things that have eternal value.
00:44:10.760 | Lord, I pray for every single one of us
00:44:12.240 | that you give us true wisdom.
00:44:14.160 | God, a lot of the teaching that we talked about today,
00:44:16.620 | there are good principles to take home,
00:44:19.140 | but applying them, Lord, we need your spirit,
00:44:22.360 | we need your guidance, and we need your light every day.
00:44:25.000 | So I pray that you would provide that for us
00:44:27.160 | through your grace, and it's in Christ's name we pray.
00:44:29.120 | Amen.