All right, everybody, welcome back. It is our fourth annual bestie awards. Yes, everybody is incredibly excited to hear the biggest winners in politics and losers in business. Best Science Breakthrough so many amazing categories with me again, Chairman Dictator Chamath Palihapitiya, our billionaire puck. Welcome back to the program. Bye.

That's what I said. Billionaire puck. billionaire person of color. Yes, please get it right. And running the all in DEI group, the rain man himself, David Sachs. Welcome back to the program. Good to be here. Okay. And the Sultan of science. Welcome back to the program. Are you ready with your selections?

Gentlemen? Are we ready to do this? J Kelp? This is the holiday episode. You got to have a little more cheer. This isn't all business, dude. Cue the music, Nick. Three, two. Yes. And here we are everybody back again for the 2023 bestie awards. This is where everybody goes crazy.

Oh my god standing ovation. Hold on. Who's drinking some champagne with me? I need some champagne popping. What are you guys drinking? These are the awards. Everybody wants to know who's going to be a winner. You're right. I need a drink. Hold on. He needs a drink for this.

I need a drink too. Can you can I go get a drink? Hang on. Everybody get a drink. Loosen it up. I'm at my office. I don't have alcohol here. Look at the second draw. All right, everybody. Welcome to the bestie awards for 2023. What are you drinking? I got a little Vove Clicquot.

You know, I love you actually gonna drink it. You know, I people don't know this about me. But that was my beverage of choice was the old Vove Clicquot when I would go out in New York. What have you got there? sacks? What are you drinking for the 2023 bestie awards?

What are you drinking? I'm drinking my classes all reposado. And the class with a single big rock and I broke out my patriotic great seal the United States class. This is a tribute to the border. You got a little bit of Mexico a little bit of the United States.

And is it flowing between the border and you is that it's open border now? The border is completely open at this point. Gotcha. Okay. Just flooding in. You're not drinking. You're at the office. Free. But I mean, I didn't plan. I brought my props to wish everybody Happy Holidays.

Amazing. Freeberg. Everybody knows that you're a quiet solo drinker and your darkest hours. What are you drinking? surprises there? What are you drinking? I'm always drinking when I got to hang out with you Jake. I'm drinking a Victoria Victoria. Actually, yeah, I don't think you hang out with Jake house over.

Oh, everybody. There it is. We've got the Vove Clicquot. Unfortunately, at my ski house, I can't find the flute. So I'm gonna put this in a wineglass. Sorry for the sacrilege. But cheers. Here's to another amazing year of the all in podcast and the besties hanging out. Cheers. You want to say a few words, Jake?

Like, I'd like to say a few words in memoriam of the year. Yes, working with you guys has been delightful, miserable and everything in between. Congratulations on all of our success. And here's to an amazing 2024. And hopefully we find a CEO and we can keep this thing going for another 150 or so episodes.

Nobody thought we would get here. Everybody hates us for our success. And the mids and the haters. Love you besties. Cheers. I would like to make a toast. Here we go. Here is to three of the most talented, friendly guys. And Jacob format for me. Mr. Action. Don't ever forget it, brother.

All right. Well, to three of the most sincere, heartfelt, intelligent, loving individuals and David sacks. Welcome to the program. Here for you. And let's just get to it. We're going to give our 2023 award for the biggest winner in politics last year. Chamath, you said that your prediction for 2023.

Now we're going to give the actual word for 2033. But in our predictions episode last year, you said you were long Nikki Alley and short to Santa's what a prescient call. What do you have this year? That's Brett trade paid off in spades. Yeah, but expression. Looking back, I think the biggest political winner was Donald Trump.

Okay. I think that the documents case galvanized his leadership in the Republican nomination. And I think that this move by the Colorado Supreme Court basically sealed the deal. I think he is going to run away with the Republican nomination. And barring some catastrophic meltdown has a better chance to get into the White House than before this Colorado case.

So he was the biggest political winner, I think of 2023. It just seems to me that if I had to really put it in a nutshell, I think that the the Dems in this weird way, actually want Trump back in office more than the Republicans do, because everything they've done has been near sighted, and I think has actually galvanized his support and increased his popularity and his ability to fundraise more than anything else.

Friedberg, who is your biggest political winner of 2023? Who did I give it to last year? Do you remember? You gave it to MBS, and Saudi, that they would have the your prediction was they would have a year in the monarchy. But in some ways, I think they are center stage.

That's what I thought. So I am giving my biggest winner. I'm giving my biggest political winner award to the nation state of Saudi Arabia. Oh, like they are sitting in the middle of the US, China, Iran, Israel, Russia, they have relations with all of those nations and relations where they are trying to be productive, extraordinary leverage with both their capital, their geographic positioning and their energy resourcing, and painting a very positive future on how they want to reinvest their capital and modernize the country.

And I think one of the biggest coups that they pulled this year was turning J Cal to being a big promoter of Saudi after his visit to the Middle East. And so I think they're entering 2024 with great strength and leverage. So I give them credit for riding out many storms this year and coming out ahead.

So it's just it's been interesting to watch. I'm not I'm not close or tied to them in any way. But I just think from a global leverage point of view, they seem to be in a very strong place. So that's my, my award. I can't disagree with you that the place has made incredible progress, personal freedoms, economic freedoms, their the country is evolving and embracing every country on the planet, right?

So you have to take that as a win. I have no business interests there, but I am impressed with the progress. So sacks that means it's your turn to give us your 2023 biggest winner. My biggest winner in politics, Jake, I think you'll like this one is abortion rights.

abortion rights, abortion rights after Dobbs abortion rights are winning on every battle where they're at issue. It's one referenda in very red states like Kansas, Kentucky, Montana and Ohio. It's swung legislatures to the Dems and swing states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Virginia. It's swung states from court races in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.

I'd go so far as to say it's the Democrats only winning issue and they are putting it on the ballot everywhere they can. Ruth Bader Ginsburg pointed out around 30 years ago that we likely could have reached this resolution decades ago, if the courts hadn't stolen the issue from the political process, because abortion rights were in the process of being liberalized everywhere.

And in my view, the political process is messy, but it's how we finally move past the issue as a nation, which is why I think Dobbs was the right decision, even if it was a difficult one. Huh, interesting. So you are smoothing over Trump's taking away the right for women to choose and saying that this is a net positive for the country, if I'm reading it correctly.

Well, Trump didn't take anything away. That's true. Lord, people like Courtney. This is gone on. I just explained it. You're not listening. Supreme Court gave the issue back to the democratic process. The democratic process is now voting to maintain abortion rights. And that is going to settle the issue once and for all.

So just think for all of your fears that abortion rights would fall by the wayside, because that's from court decision have actually proven to be null and void. What we're ending up with is a better solution, where the country doesn't need to fight about this anymore, because the voters have expressed the will of the people.

Fantastic framing. Great save for the Republican Party there. Well, it won't be unless they learn how to talk about the issue. Yeah, I mean, the way I would frame the same issue is that Trump stack the deck to take away women's right to choose in order to get elected, but your framing is pretty good too.

And you're a master of framing these things. So I was torn here for mine. I had two different choices. I was either gonna go with Nikki Haley, because what an amazing feat for her to even be getting close to Trump in some of these primaries. But I think really the biggest winners in this year of 2023 were non traditional candidates, actually becoming somewhat viable and capturing the imagination of young people.

The vague RFK Dean Phillips being I think the three leading candidates. So I'm going to go with the non traditional candidates being the big winners for 2023. And for last year, I had said that my prediction was for 2023, was that Trump would get indicted, win the nomination, and then agree to not run because he gets a pardon.

So I think I've got two or three of those in the parlay in the bag. Let's go on to biggest loser, the biggest loser in politics. When we did our predictions for 2023. Chamath, you said that you were short to Santas. Here we are, we're giving our actual award for the biggest political loser in 2023.

Freeberg, I'll start with you. Who is your biggest political loser for 2023? My biggest political loser is the DEI movement. Huh? I heard, obviously, post October 7, the Hamas attacks on Israel. And then the following support for Hamas, that came out of what have historically been groups that are aligned with DEI interests, and then the DEI driven leaders of the universities that went in front of Congress to defend their freedom of speech rules around anti semitic protests, caused a lot of folks that I know who are very liberal and very influential, to wake up to the negative impacts of the DEI movement, and its linkage to potentially anti semitism, which is masked in this oppressor oppressed ideology.

That is the basis of a lot of these DEI protocols. And so I think it really shined a negative light on DEI this year in a way that hasn't been the case in a broader way with very influential people in a very long time. And so I think that that movement is going to take a big hit and took a big hit at the end of this year, and will continue to, I think, be questioned by donors and supporters of the ideologies of that movement.

Okay, sacks, who is your biggest loser in politics for 2023? My biggest loser in politics for this year is Vladimir Zelensky, the President of Ukraine. And you can see this pretty clearly by just looking at the cover of Time magazine, he began the year, fresh off of winning Time magazine's Person of the Year.

And by the end of the year, the same author at Time magazine was writing a new cover story, saying that Zelensky had become delusional, he had become messianic, he was ordering his troops on suicide missions, and his own inner circle had turned on him. And of course, who could forget that other photo from the middle of the year, at Vilnius, when all those euro snobs turned their back on Zelensky.

That was a brutal image that went viral on social media, literally the European elite turning their backs on a frustrated Zelensky. Sadly, Zelensky had the opportunity in April of 2022, to make peace to sign a peace deal. And unfortunately, he took Boris Johnson and Joe Biden's advice to pressure Putin, rather than make peace.

And I think that gamble has turned into a disaster for him. Chumath, your biggest political loser in 2023? I had a different choice. But I think game time change? Yeah, hearing David has convinced me I will, I will go with the death of the acronyms. It was it was close for me between that.

And I actually think that Joe Biden unfortunately, had a very difficult run of it. In 2023. When you actually think about it, the Ukraine thing was a fiasco, all of this stuff around maybe putting the hand on the scale, whether it's on Elon or against Donald Trump, it's all just very messy, I think for him.

But I do think that Freiburg is right, this is probably the beginning of the end of the acronyms. And if you look at ESG and DEI together, ESG is a little bit more measurable, but sustainable asset ownership and ESG ownership across the world shrank by 15%, which you may say, is that a big number or not?

That's $5 trillion. And so where the money goes, typically, so goes everything else in modern society. And so when the money starts to scurry, I think that you can pretty much expect that people's patience and support of these kinds of movements are waning. I'll go with death of the acronyms are the biggest.

So you started you were going to say Biden, but you changed it in real time. And you went DEI ESG acronyms, acronyms, and okay, death of the acronyms. You know, I had a lot of talks with folks about this one. People had a lot of input. Some people said to Santa, some people said Biden, I think the biggest 2023 loser in politics is the American people who are now faced with a Biden Trump rematch.

Both of those individuals clearly being in different stages of decline being over 80. And the GOP just can't quit Trump. And it seems like the Democrats can't quit Biden, despite 70 80% of the country not wanting the rematch. So I'm going to give the American people are the biggest political losers of 2023.

All right, here we go. biggest political surprise. This is the biggest political surprise of 2023. sacks. What's your biggest political surprise? Well, I think the biggest political surprise and it was a very negative one was the Hamas attack on Israel on the morning of October 7, which really seemed to come out of nowhere.

Only eight days before Jake Sullivan, who's Biden's National Security Advisor had declared that the Middle East had been quieter than it had been in two decades. And those words, obviously, prove prove very old time, but he wasn't alone in thinking that I think almost everybody was really surprised by this attack.

I think until then, the Middle East seemed to be on a path of progress with the Abraham Accords being negotiated between Israel and several Gulf monarchies. And I think that October 7 has really changed the political paradigm, certainly in Israel in the Middle East, and I think even in American politics.

Okay. Freeberg a little bit of a nuanced take on that. But I said the rise of Hamas was the biggest political surprise. You know, Hamas is a self proclaimed political party that was thrust to the center of geopolitics and domestic social issues across the west after October 7, which was, I think, probably a surprise to many that planned these attacks as well.

Basically, it feels to me like Hamas is the pawn that crossed the chess board and became a queen. It's an organization that, you know, had resourcing and was influenced by, you know, many have shown connections to Iran and other wealthy states and had very low attention levels prior to October 7, on a global basis and post October 7, now has recognition, and sympathy and a great deal of interest in the root cause of their party.

So really incredible surprise. I don't think anyone could have predicted this at the start of the year that not just the attacks happened, but the resulting shift in the discourse and influence that's happened to my biggest political surprise of 2023. I'm going to go with a domestic choice. And I think it's quite obvious.

But the biggest political surprises are of Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. I don't think anybody would have predicted that he would both drop out of the Democratic Party run as an independent and essentially, collect. He is, in terms of favorability in the polls. He's the leading 2024 candidate right now.

It's incredible. People like him. That's for sure. And nobody would have predicted. That's a really good one. What do we think he will get if he runs as an independent just percentage wise, Ross Perot as a third party can get 19% you think better than 19% because the country is much more fragmented today.

There's a lot more protest votes today. There's just a lot of reasons where RFK can garner a lot of support and build a plurality among centrists. That wasn't possible. But when Perot was running, because when he ran, you have to remember, like just the country was in a very different place psychologically than it is right now.

Yeah, I too had third party candidates as being my biggest surprise. I didn't give it to a specific one. I was debating these third party candidates against the GOP not being able to field a better option than Trump. But I think I'm going to go again with third party candidates.

But I'll include Dean Phillips in that breaking ranks. I'll include Vivek. Just a very young, very smart individual capturing people's imagination. third party candidates, for me is the biggest surprise. And I do think it could have a meaningful impact if you're right that he gets over 19%. Who does that?

Chamath in your mind? Who does that benefit? And who does it hurt? If the candidates are Biden and Trump? It hurts by the most. You believe that? Okay. What about you, Saxe? What do you think it hurts the most? Unclear right now? Yeah. I mean, I think on the issues, I can see a lot of populist voters wanting to go with RFK.

But on the other hand, maybe he does peel away some Democratic Party voters. So I'm not sure to be honest. I've heard this before. Any thoughts, Friedberg on that? What's the question? If RFK were to get as Chamath thinks more than Perot, so that's 20% or more of the popular vote, who is that going to harm?

And who's it going to hurt Trump or Biden? I saw a Gallup survey that showed that there's a real shot at more than 40% of Americans being interested in the third party. And so I'm sorry, I could be totally wrong on that. But I pretty sure I saw that and it really kind of resonated with me.

And I think our discourse here and you know, obviously conversations with our friend group, Nick might have something on this support for third US political party up to 63%. This is the Gallup data. Yeah, so I was right. I think that this is one of the most kind of profound shifts in American politics, at least in our lifetimes, that the right has gone very right, the left has gone very left.

And they've been so rooted in identity politics, that you can't really see any of these issues kind of finding compromise and finding a way to lean across the aisle and get things done. And I think that's where a lot of people are just fed up. So I would love to see a third political party emerge.

And if RFK breaks the dam on this, it would be fantastic. It will take as these things always do a number of years for a group of independents to coalesce around what that third party looks like, and how it's going to be governed and so on. But this could be a really interesting shift in the dynamics of American politics.

So pretty, pretty cool. I'm not into politics in the US that much, but pretty cool. I think opportunity to reframe, you know, how do we want to build America going forward, and thinking about using a new party as a way to do that. And we haven't even heard of no labels, the third party platform, they're probably going to announce Joe Manchin any day now.

And so that could change things as well. So that's a very interesting take. Biggest problem that we have, this may sound really dumb, but I think it's true in launching a third party is a viable name. I think it's the most important boundary condition to have a sustainable third party is a is a good name.

Like an iconic person, the charity, like whatever we call this name of the party, not like person, they feel no labels is a terrible name, a terrible name. Green Party is terrible. Green Party is terrible. The Green Party Freedom Party, they're all terrible, because they all feel like they're rooted in some, you know, either conservative or liberal cause, there's got to be some element of like, what's the right decision on each on each topic, not necessarily, you know, how do we fight the identity politics?

I think that's the key piece that's missing. And I like the rational party, like a party of national individuals, disparaging to a degree, you know, yeah, branding, branding. So what would you call it? The third party? Republicans? People's Republic of Sax Stan, do you have an idea for a name?

I'm not gonna comment on this. Something brewing? Would you have a name for a third party? You like the rational party, the rational party or something like that, where it kind of evoked? You know, people who are being thoughtful, and we're trying to make rational decisions in everybody's best interest, right?

Something that was not about us versus them abortion, you know, ti areas, g just something focused more on getting things done, they getting things done party, something like that getting things done party. So she has a nose, but better than the derangement party. Yeah, absolutely. All right, let's keep going.

Let's keep going. Here we go. He's only trying to derail the show. I will not engage with. All right, it's time for our biggest business winner, biggest winner in business. Who you got your mouth? Who's your biggest winner in business? I mean, I don't think this is even close.

But I think it's Elon Musk. Oh, three things, obviously, three different companies. But the rebasing of Twitter actually had an even more profound impact, I think, on Silicon Valley than it necessarily did on Twitter. Second was, I think SpaceX has really turned a corner Starlink is really at scale.

Starship looks like it's viable. And then the third is Tesla really consolidated its leadership in EVs, and batteries and battery technology and FSD. So I think on the merits, it was not even close. Okay, so you got who's your biggest business winner? The magnificent seven. These are the seven companies that accounted for almost all of the stock market gains this year, you can see it in this chart.

It's about a 63% gap between the performance of the top names, top seven names in the S&P 500. And then the other 493 of them. I think that the S&P 493 had a 12% gain this year, which isn't bad, but it was dwarfed by the munition seven, which was almost 80%.

Incredible. All right, Zack says the M seven, Freeberg, who you got? Yeah, I'm gonna pick one of the seven, which is Microsoft just a shot down the middle of the fairway here. Despite only seeing, I think, roughly 8% top line growth, the business saw its market cap grow by over a trillion dollars 1.7 to 2.7 trillion this year, just an incredible number.

I mean, can you imagine if we ever said that 10 years ago, whether anyone would believe it, consumer and enterprise strength and strategic strength, the fact that they were able to close the activism acquisition in the sort of regulatory environment. And then the strength that Satya showed and the speed at which he acted during the open AI weekend debacle, where he set up this whole thing where he got Sam on board and was going to retain all this value that he was extracting from open AI and partnership was, I think, great leadership and cemented his, his position and standing as being a really thoughtful, fast acting strategic leader for a business that's been around forever, but amazingly added a trillion of market cap in 12 months.

So I just throw it to Microsoft this year, it's very hard to kind of break that business apart and say, here's all the things that are wrong with it. It's just, you know, it's just moving. All right, very well done. We got Elon. Didn't you work there for a while?

One year at Twitter? No, in Microsoft, Microsoft, Microsoft, one year. I was actually no, I was locked up for two years in the wake of the ember deal. Yeah, I was a corporate vice president Microsoft. You like it? Yeah, it was. I mean, it's a high quality company for sure.

Yeah. I mean, I was like super active for one year because I was still in charge of I still had a P&L running Yammer. But then after one year, Yammer was sort of assimilated into the board. And yeah, I didn't have anything to do. I was kind of just like on call.

Right, right. All right, I am going to talk my own book on this one and give it to Dara and the team at Uber, they got into the S&P 500 became profitable, planning stock buybacks, they resolved almost all the regulatory reza issues, including getting the taxis in London to be on the app, which was their big adversary, and they were going to get kicked out of London.

If you remember, this is a company that five years ago, the press, and the fake news were saying could never be profitable and was going to fail. And now it is the most successful new startup in the last cycle, bigger than everybody. And so congratulations to the team over there.

All right, biggest loser in business. The biggest loser. It's 2023. Freeberg, just so you know, last year, your prediction was capital intensive series B C's and D's of growth companies. Well done on that prediction. But give me freeberg your actual Who was your biggest loser in 2023? Oh, Sultan of science, it's sort of tied up.

Obviously, there's a tail to the effect, but it's VCs who deployed most of their capital in 2021. Obviously, it was the year where venture capital deployments peaked. And what I've heard from institutional peas this year, is that, you know, not only will that vintage underperform, but it could torpedo as many as 50% of firms that are managing capital today in Silicon Valley.

And it could switch the capital allocation model that reduces allocation to venture as an asset class significantly because of the torpedo that the 2021 vintage represents in performance. So that was my biggest loser for the year. Good for me and sacks because we were diligent during that time. All right, let's go to you sacks.

Your biggest loser in business in 2023. My biggest business loser is Disney. It seems that every aspect of Disney's business, the bed in 2023. I mean, all their major theatrical releases flopped amidst a conservative backlash against its woke social stances. You may recall that the actress who played Snow White in the remake accused Prince Charming of being a stalker.

I mean, there's a million examples, even their their Marvel franchise suddenly had bombs, they had to fire Jonathan Majors, who was doing a fantastic job playing Kang and an entire franchise arc, they're gonna have to reset now because of a criminal conviction involving him. Disney Plus subscriptions fell off a cliff, even attendance at its theme parks declined dramatically because they charge way too much for families to visit.

And then finally, Bob Iger picked a fight with Elon Musk over advertising member Elon probably told Iger to GF why? Good for you. Yep. And 10s of 1000s of Disney Plus subscribers cancel their subscriptions because of that. And it all makes you wonder if Iger now wishes he had stayed retired.

I too picked Disney. I put Disney Warner Brothers. Both of them had their comic book franchises collapse simultaneously. On the on the Warner Brothers side in the DC side, the flash and Justice League, everything came apart. Streaming was too expensive. And you didn't mention these horrific strikes that they had to deal with.

And it feels like they had to give a ton of concessions. So Disney was my biggest loser as well with Warner Brothers as their little brother. They are Chamath. We have a consensus. They're rare consensus between Saxon. I will Who did you have for your biggest loser in business?

Well, you you guys partially win. Okay, because I'm gonna have to agree with you guys. But I think the biggest loser in business was the go woke community who tried to synthetically and artificially use all these social movements as a way to drive revenue, and just got totally burned.

So Disney, bud, target. And I think the statement from consumers is look, just sell a product, stay in your lane. Make a better and better product for us at lower and lower prices. And otherwise, just let the politicians and the voters decide social issues. And I think that was pretty clear.

All right, there you have it, folks. If you're going to make bud light, people just want to drink the damn beer. They're not interested in your politics. All right, here we go. Biggest business surprise of 2023. Who do you got sex? Who is your biggest business surprise of 2023?

I think it was the Fed's bank term funding program or BTF P in response to the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank and the regional banking crisis. As you may recall, it wasn't just SVB. There were several dominoes in the regional banking system that fell. It was SVB signature First Republic, and even in Europe, Credit Suisse basically fell apart all because of the sudden spike in interest rates.

A lot of people tried to blame VCs for this J Cal. Yeah, you and me took took some heat. The truth is that if the dominoes had fallen in a slightly different order, no one would have thought to blame VCs for this. It was obviously the fact that rates had spiked up.

And these banks got caught off sides because their deposit base is volatile. And they had loaded up on government bonds at a 1% interest and then the value of those bonds plummeted. The Fed then stepped in to prevent this from turning into a contagion. That was where the BT FP came in.

And I'm ambivalent about it because I think that we don't know the long term consequences of the Fed basically providing this liquidity to the banking system. However, it's very clear to me that there was a regional banking crisis underway and the Fed stepping in, I think probably saved us from having a recession this year.

Amazing. So the Fed there, I picked Facebook for my biggest surprise this year. They changed the name of the company two years ago to meta. They were pouring 10s of billions of dollars into VR, which nobody wanted to use. The CEO was focused on the wrong thing. But they turned it around the stock dropped to 90.

And Zuckerberg, I guess didn't want to lose. And so he laid off 10s of 1000s of employees, said every no more middle managers, everybody's got to get to work. And they doubled down on their existing businesses. And they've made some great progress on AI. So my biggest business surprise was the resurgence of Zuckerberg and Facebook.

Chamath, who did you have for your biggest business surprise? I'll pick Jay Powell and the Fed capitulation. I think that I've been saying for a while that rates will be higher for longer for quite a while now. And I was really surprised when Jay Powell had this press conference in December in early December, and just basically capitulated and just said, You know what, guys, we're going to be cutting probably three times next year.

That was effectively the gist of what he said. And immediately, the 10 year, basically just completely changed course. And it went from almost at 5% to below 4% within a matter of two and a half or three weeks. So and then the stock market has basically done nothing but go straight up.

That's a huge surprise to me, because I think now what the setup is for 2024 is basically we will melt up, up until the first cut, and then there'll probably be some real selling. And I would not have predicted that the markets have become a lot more accommodative. As a result, I didn't expect that.

So Jay Powell really, I think surprised a lot of us, he could have been more tempered. But he essentially decided to give away the playbook in the last month of the year here. And it's important for everybody to understand the Fed acts independently of the administration. It's just a coincidence, correct sacks, that their cuts are going to come just in time for fighting economics.

And if it happens to go up in the next nine months, that has nothing to do with the Biden administration, who might benefit from that if the economy, Jason, Nick, I haven't I have a quote that I sent Nick, this is a this was what Larry Summers said. And I just think it's such an unbelievable quote that is just worth internalizing.

If you just start reading here, so I prefer the Volcker Greenspan approach, which is to recognize that the Fed is a little bit like the Delphic oracles. People regarded them as omniscient and omnipotent, but they were in fact neither. So the oracles kept their pronouncements vague and oracular, not concrete and specific because it was impossible to be concrete and specific without being wrong frequently and undercut credibility.

Sure. I mean, that is just the perfect general Yeah, summary of what probably should have happened in these pressers. And this was an example where it was the exact opposite and the market just took it and said, I'm off to the races just to agree with that and buttress it.

It's not only the fact that they gave this guidance this year, as you remember, back when we started having inflation, the Fed still stuck to the story that it would not be raising rates for some extended period of time. And a lot of these banks that had problems, basically, because they bought too many long term government bonds.

A lot of those bonds were bought during that period when the Fed was assuring him it wasn't gonna be jacking up rates. So if the Fed hadn't misled them, maybe they would have made better risk decisions. Yeah. So it works both ways. Freeberg got a business surprise for 2023.

For the audience here at the bestie awards. The biggest surprise was Sam Altman's ouster and return all in a weekend. So that was kind of crazy. So I just give it to that. Nothing else to be said. Okay, the flip flop. Love it. Okay, best science breakthrough. This is everybody's favorite.

Also, the time when sacks goes and takes a leak 2023. Biggest science break. So I've got one. I got sacks. You're awake during this. What's the biggest science breakthrough for you? According to NASA, there's a new look at Uranus. That's right, Jake out. These are never before seen deep, penetrating shots of Uranus.

How deep and penetrating are these very deep, very penetrating from the James Webb Space Telescope. Freeberg, when your anus gets probed this deeply, what's your takeaway? What's the feeling you get in this deep probing of your anus? Oh, wonder, mystery on wonder. Well, that's a space colonoscopy. Something gets moved with it.

Absolutely. I'm going to save you for last. Freeberg. Chamath, you have one. Yeah, I think that this unfortunately did not get nearly the attention it deserves. But I'm going to pick the CRISPR FDA approved CRISPR treatment of sickle cell anemia. I think that this is just an incredibly important breakthrough.

And so you know, sickle cell basically is just a condition where the shape of your red blood cells change. It causes a lot of very painful inflammation and damage, disproportionately affects the black population, African American population. And so now there's an approved therapy which goes in and makes the gene edits and fixes these folks.

So congratulations to Vertex and CRISPR. And I think it's just incredible. There was my big breakthrough was this brain decoder technology. We didn't talk about it here on the show. But this project was crazy. They did MRI scans or fMRI scans of blood flow to different areas in the brain.

They then had people listen to podcasts like the moth. And they tracked individuals brain activity with specific words that were said during the podcast, and they had them repeat words, then they attached it to a language model GPT one, I believe, and narrow down what people were thinking, then they had people think thoughts.

And it started to use the predictive model of GPT one and combined it with what was happening in their brain chemistry. Now, this is a far way from being able to read people's minds. But for somebody who couldn't speak, let's say, the idea that you could think, and then have your thoughts and the story you were telling actually come out of a computer just by thinking would be miraculous.

Obviously, Neuralink does this with a direct connection. But fascinating. Right now, sex don't think about Uranus. He's going deep into Uranus right now. He's reading that paper. I can see it in his eyes. You guys know, I got a colonoscopy. Thank goodness. How was it? I got it on.

Did they put you under Tuesday? Yeah, but I got I didn't get the propofol. I got Demerol. I think Demerol. Oh, you got to go probe. I had like the twilight sedation. Just kind of like, you know, it was great. Don't get me wrong. But it was like 1520 minutes like it was not.

But you were a kind of awake and lucid by halfway through. You woke up halfway through? Yeah. Huh? Did they give you a drink a little red wine or anything? Nothing? No, no, they didn't talk to me. No, I just saw that I saw the screen. I was like, what the hell?

And then I just went back to sleep. Let me tell you propofol. It's drip, drip, drip. And then you wake up four hours later. It's the most restful sleep you ever had. No, dude, I had 90 minutes. Maybe it's an hour. Yeah, yeah. I had like a 20 minute twilight sedation.

That was it. I asked him to go back up in there twice just to make sure. freeberg enough about Uranus. What was your biggest science surprise of 23? I know it's hard to surprise you. I know you guys want to hear some crazy specific thing. But I actually just said that there are too many breakthroughs with machine learn models of AI this year to list LLM that can run on small desktop machines that are open source that outperform all models that were in existence even a few months prior.

It highlights the leaps and bounds of this trajectory of development and models. And there's other specific examples like we talked about DeepMinds graphcast model, which is a graph neural network on the show. And obviously, all the generative models and imagery and movies and music, but it's just such an extraordinary time to see us leverage our combined capabilities to drive these surprises the pace of language models and the pace of AI development, just all these breakthroughs in aggregate.

I mean, I think it's hard. It's hard to pay attention to anyone. There's a constellation of change underway. It's incredible. Hmm. Okay, now it's time for our biggest flash in the pan. Who's your biggest flash in the pan? Oh, my gosh, this is a well, could be business, it could be society, it could be pop culture.

I wrote down SBF. Okay. I think like from what looked like a too good to be wonder kind, frankly, just turned out to be an Adderall addicted grifter. Sacks, I hope that doesn't hit too close to home. Who was yours? Same ballpark. I said, effective altruism, the big hit with SBF, I would have thought that'd be enough to polish it off.

But then we had the open AI board, oust Sam Altman, like we talked about, apparently that was driven by a couple of their nonprofit board members who were effective altruists. I think the failure of that whole debacle will put the nail in the coffin of the EA movement. Okay, freeberg, you got a flash in the pan for 2023.

The obvious breakthrough in superconducting room temperature material, lk 99. Yeah, it came in, it went, everyone thought it was going to change the world couple weeks later, couldn't be replicated, was disproven, ultimately. And for a hot minute there, everyone thought the world was going to change. So super exciting to see room temperature, superconductivity in the search for room temperature, superconducting materials, get so much attention.

As I mentioned, it's something I've thought a lot about since I was 13 years old. So it's super cool, but didn't happen. Came in and went, I went with a wild card here. I said George Santos, the diva drama queen and congressman who slayed from 2023 to 2023. Electric campaign funds to buy designer clothes and get Botox.

So he asked Queen and Sephora and Sephora. Queen just making bank over a cameo. I'm gonna have him come in. He's gonna do a he's gonna do a quick cameo here on all in pockets. All right. Best CEO, your best CEO, best CEO. I'll go first. I'll go first.

I haven't got first yet. I picked a wild card here. I went Taylor Swift $4 billion in revenue from the tour and the merchandise and the movie and everything. Each tour stop generates $90 million for the city she lands in. She's getting 85% she went direct to movie theaters with that concert movie and made a quarter billion dollars.

She's hands down. Best CEO of 2023. For me, we got Sathya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft. I just think the gross tonnage of market cap dollars he added in 2023 plus figuring out how to close Activision, plus retaining maximum optionality with open AI is just the masterclass in heads down management.

Well done, Saks. Who do you got? I have Jensen Wang, CEO of Nvidia and king of the GPU. We talked about the magnificent seven, but none was more magnificent than Nvidia whose stock is up 235%. And earnings and forecasts keep blowing doors off. Jensen has been planning this moment for many years before the whole AI frenzy took hold.

And Nvidia is now reaping the benefit of that. Who do you got? Friedberg? I give it to Sam Altman, because I don't think any individual has generated more attention on a private company and its effect on the world and the future than Sam Altman and open AI. And I think that he's been aggressive in raising capital, this guy can raise like he can raise.

And then he over bets on people, he finds talent, he gives them extraordinary comp packages, gets them to come and work on this, this extraordinary effort and then gets them to deliver results. He pushes the limits, he pushes the boundaries, even beyond what's comfortable for his board members. Clearly, you know, the comes with the good and the bad.

And then even after he got ousted by his board, his entire employee base through a crew and got him back. And sure, everyone's got their economic motivations to see that happen. But I still think that the setup was, you know, largely his, his work. So he does deserve credit for that.

So all in, I think it's, it's an incredible year for Sam Altman. Now we move on to 2023. Best Investor Chamath, who was your best investor for 2023? Here at the bestie awards. It was a continuation of the last couple of years. But it's the pot shops and specifically Citadel.

So I give that award to Ken Griffin. You know, pot shops, I think have really become the hallway bully of the public capital markets and Citadel is the kingpin. They returned $7 billion to their investors in 23. I think if you go back, since 2020, they've returned more than 20 billion, they generated, you know, 15% very steady returns uncorrelated to the market.

It's just a machine. I mean, it's incredible. It's an incredible business that he's built. So he is. There's nobody close. saxody. I've got Bill Ackman here for timing the bond market perfectly. He shorted bonds for most of the year making hundreds of millions of dollars. And then on October 23, he announced that he was covering his positions and that it was too risky to stay short in bonds and he was going long.

And that very day was the high point of the 10 year bond yield. The market made a bottom on October 27. Since then yields have plummeted, which means that the value bonds is sort. And the best part of it is that Ackman is using his new FU money to take on Ivy League University presidents for their woke DEI double standards, grifting and plagiarism.

Well done. All right, free Berkeley. I also said Ackman for his timing on the Treasury trade. I was right there with you guys, except I wanted to go with the wildcard. I am astounded by the growth of tick tock. And I just worked backwards. Arthur Danchik, who I've never met from Susquehanna International Group referred to as SIG in the industry still owns according to sources, 15% of this company, which could be worth three, four or $500 billion when it goes out.

And despite all the saber rattling, the CCP has not divested from it, even though Trump and Biden both said they were going to try to do that. And ByteDance was caught spying on American journalists using their tick tock data. So the fact that that investment is still in place to me is extraordinary.

So congratulations to them. But let's sell it quick. All right, now we move on moving quickly here. 2023. Best turnaround, which are best turnaround, Jamal. This was like three years in the making, but I'll give it to Novo Nordisk. I think the amount of attention that Novo has gotten for a Zempick, what Govi and rebels in 2023 was incredible.

But you have to go back to the last decade where the first five years there was just not much activity, and they had to maintain their investment, stay strong, stay focused. And then starting in about 2019. The stock has been about a four or five x in the last four or five years.

And I think these semi glutide GLP ones are here to stay. They're transformational on society. So that was an enormous task of corporate focus. So I'll give the turnaround award to Novo Nordisk, sacks, we got in light of what's happening right now in the crypto markets, I'm gonna go with Solana.

Oh, wow. Wow. I began the year at about $9 a token. It's now at 92. As of this moment, obviously, it's very volatile, but it's up roughly 10x this year to date. And in light of the fact that various unscrupulous actors on the internet accused some of us of buying Solana at a discount and dumping it on retail without any evidence, and that wasn't true.

Let's just say that those of us who are still holding bags of Solana are very happy campers right now. Freeberg, who do you got biggest business turnaround? I give it to Dara and Uber when he took over that business. I think it was an eight to $9 billion net loss in 2019 $5 billion EBITDA run rate right now incredible forecasting incredible skill and forecasting the sensitivities in that business, by the way, say more, say more.

And, you know, obviously, he's seen the market cap just this year grow from 50 billion to 126 billion as of today. So give it to Dara for the big turnaround product sucks, though, I will say it's gotten expensive card to get an Uber sit around and wait forever. So Dara, please fix that.

Otherwise, good job. Well done. I went with a one that you guys gave awards to and on all the previous awards, Sam Waltman is all over this year as besties. I thought going from being fired for malfeasance to becoming a martyr and then I'm the captain now you can throw in the I'm the captain now meme right here, Nick, for the pod in about 10 days, he captured three full news cycles was named CEO of the Year, and the palace intrigue raising money for an Nvidia killer in the Middle East.

I mean, this guy is like James Bond plus a CEO. So what a great turnaround from fired to desired Sam Altman. All right, let's go to our next one here. 2023 the worst company of the year. This is the company that is loathsome and horrible. In our opinions. And it's that's all it is, folks.

It's just for dudes opinions, sacks. In your opinion, what was the worst company of 2023? I'm gonna go with Pfizer. Just last week, the Wall Street Journal had an expose on the inner turmoil at Pfizer as its market cap has lost $140 billion in valuation in 2023. By the way, that headline is ridiculous.

Pfizer did not save the world. The reason why they are off so much is because of a massive drop in demand for Pax Lovett and for COVID boosters. Apparently, people do not see the value in those products. They finally figured it out. I would say that the company is also suffering from a credibility crisis.

By not leveling with the public about the efficacy and safety of their vaccines. The CEO Albert burla was confronted in Davos by citizen journalists for this lack of transparency back in January of this year. And what's interesting is that if you read the Wall Street Journal piece, even his own employees are questioning burla's candor.

When he announced on a company wide virtual town hall that the company was embarking on a cost cutting effort. The chat room erupted in snark, quote, future is bright, but you might get fired is how one employee characterized burla spin. This led another employee to reply quote, dumpster fires are always bright.

All right, Friedberg worst company of 2023. For you. You have a worst company must listen. I do. I'm going to get through this without getting interrupted. The worst company of 2023 is movie on foodstuff. This company is pure evil. It's got 137,000 employees. It's based in China. It's the world's largest slaughter of pigs slaughters 2.1 million pigs per year, with the world's largest pig farm near Nanyang, where they basically take pigs from birth and breed them all the way through to slaughter.

During their entire lives. These pigs never get to move more than a few inches. They live in these multi storey housing units that they never get to see sun or the light from the outside. Through their whole lives. They're kept separate from their families. Pigs are as smart as most dogs and even young children.

And at the end of their very painful, awful existence as they're slaughtered and fed to a growing population. China consumes over a billion pigs a year. It's a horrific situation. So that's the most loathsome company of 2023. Sounds delicious. Dude, you you you went off camera. You started laughing.

It's nice. Are you laughing? That's why I started laughing. I mean, I had 15 jokes, but I'm not gonna make any of them. Yeah, when none of us are for factory farming. It's horrible. Who is your worst company? Come on, come on, get in the game here. Who is your worst company?

It's a tie between FTX and Silicon Valley Bank. One stole customer accounts and the other one just was run by a CEO and a risk management infrastructure that really imperiled and almost imperiled an entire industry. There you go. For me, it was Fox News. They deceived their loyal customers by knowingly spreading fake news about voting machines.

I wound up firing their most loved host in our fifth bestie, Tucker Carlson, and they paid record setting fines for misleading the public and creating massive division in our country. And they're facing an even bigger lawsuit, a $2.7 billion lawsuit with another election technology company that will happen in 2025.

Pension funds are now suing this loathsome company because they lost so much money for them. So my worst company of the year is Fox News. All right, Sacha, I'm sorry. So you go for the microphone there. I'm not gonna defend Fox after they fire Tucker. Exactly, exactly. That's why I put in there for you.

I do think the judgments or the magnitude of the judgments are ridiculous. Okay, now it's time. We have a little bit of fun here. Best meme, your best meme. Fun stuff. I'll start it off this year. I love the Boston cop on a slide. I don't know if you guys have seen this one, but it went super viral.

They've made millions of versions of it. This is the cop in Boston, going down a slide. And the backstory here, bunch of cops were told there's a slide that's too dangerous in Boston. One of them tried to do their duty and confirm that it was in fact dangerous. And he got injured coming down the slide.

And now anytime something is going off the track, whether it's a market or a company, you play that clip. Sachs, you're a master of memes. What do you got for us this year in the 2023 Bestial Awards? Well, I think the meme of the year had to be the GFY.

Elon's answer to Bob Iger's attempt to blackmail him. But we need to see this in the gift version, the way the hand motions are, it's this, then this, and then it comes back in. Good for conductor of an orchestra. Just a standard good for you. Jamal, did you have a, did you have a favorite Jamal a favorite meme of 2023?

Yeah, Nick, if you want to just throw it up there. I'm a journalist, and it's the kid. Journalism. What is this talking about? I think it's, it's what we all know. And I think it was further exposed this year, just the brazen, naked ambition and corrupt nature of the mainstream media.

Jason, you said it really well. And I, and it really made an impact on me. So I want to give you credit. We are all citizen journalists, investigative journalists now. And I think that that's true. I think we all have a responsibility to pick the information source. And to that, yeah, they never been more true than this.

You got to have multiple sources triangulate the truth for yourself. But yeah, I wouldn't trust the mainstream media. At this point, you know, as but one of many sources, freeberg, get a favorite meme. Got a favorite meme. No, I didn't put anything on this. Okay, you gave us six minutes on pigs being killed, but you can't come up with one mean, okay.

With a meme. Come on, man. I think it's kind of funny. Actually, he has no, he was meaningless. We need to play that way of music. Best new tech, best new tech, we got to keep things moving. Last year was a fusion in GPT across the board. This year, I'll just get a mine out of the way real quick.

I'm going to go with something more specific chat GPT app has been extraordinary. It now has 4.0. And it has Dolly in it. I've been making incredible images to go with my my sub stack and my blog posts that I would have paid 1000s of dollars, you know, for each one of those when I was doing magazines, and they have voice chat.

If you haven't connected chat GPT, his voice app to the new action button on the iPhone 15. There's a button above your volume called action, you can map it to a specific feature inside of any app. I mapped it to voice chat on chat GPT. When I'm driving with my kids, they have a question, we put it in.

And we just started asking questions about history, science, whatever it happens to be pop culture, music, to chat GPT for and it is an extraordinary breakthrough app. And it's, you know, been downloaded, I think hundreds of millions of times now or over 100 million. Incredible, incredible progress there. Chamath, you had a best tech.

Best new tech, I don't think there was anything meaningful in 2023. I think there was a lot of improvements to things that were founded and started in 2020, or 2021 or 2022. Nothing new that company this year, sacks. I have starling for JetSuite x, I of course, I've never used it, but I heard it's great.

If you do fly with other humans who you don't know, I'm looking forward to starling for private aviation as well. But I've heard it's a real game changer on commercial flights, and every kind of flight, Friberg, best new tech. My best new tech of this year, I think is really important.

As we race to keep the promise of AI alive in the face of increasing government regulation, which is open source locally run LLM. So you can take an LLM and you can run it on your machine, you don't have to be connected to the internet, you don't have to have a third party service provider making an LLM available to you.

And so this allows the continued development and pursuit of productivity gains and new capabilities that emerge from these LLMs by making them local offline, disconnected from the internet and, and away from the scrutability of agencies that want to check your model and make sure it's okay. So this is really important to me, I do think like my broader trend right now is I think that there's this really scary, big shift of, you're either going to end up in a new enlightenment, or you're gonna end up in a new dark ages.

And I think we're seeing this play out and all these conflicts around the world, and all of this regulation and all of the technology that's being deemed either a threat or an opportunity. And so I think any technology capability that allows us to pursue the enlightenment is a winner for me.

So anyway, this was a big shift that happened this year. And there's multiple models that are publicly available that are free open source that you can run. Okay, 2023. Best trend. What was the best trend? 2023? For you? I actually didn't really couldn't figure one out. Okay, Saks, you got a best trend for 2023.

Something that happened often it became a trend. My best friend is the return of colorblindness as the standard and the pushback on dEI. We already talked about the university presidents and what Bill Ackman is doing. I would add to that that the Supreme Court banned race based affirmative action and university admissions in June.

And red state governors like Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis took that as a green light to shut down dEI programs in their public colleges and universities. I think that this is a good trend and hopefully it continues next year because America should be a colorblind meritocracy. Friedberg, what was your best trend of 2023?

The profitability focus at young companies, particularly in an age of AI co pilot tools for software development. From what I've seen, it's pretty incredible in single person. efforts can yield what historically is required 612 or more people to do using co pilot tools and AI. So software development is accelerated new products and entire companies can be built by single individual at very low cost, building totally customized software.

So from what I've seen, it's not widely adopted. These these capabilities as you guys probably have seen, as well, it's starting to be. But just imagine once the majority of people are using these co piloting tools to write software, and start to learn how to use these tools, it's really going to increase productivity globally, as it finds its way into every business, and everyone can become an entrepreneur and so on.

So it's good. It's incredible to see. I to sax was looking at the issue of dEI and I framed mine as dEI dying and meritocracy thriving. That was the best trend for me. So we are once again, simpatico you and I dEI dying meritocracy thriving, nicely done. You really are proving you're a centrist.

Yeah, I mean, I think, or I just listened to MLK speech. And I thought that seems like the most logical thing to do. You're right. 100%. We figured this out some time ago. Yeah, I don't know why we have to rehash it. Okay. 2023. Worst trend. I'll lead it off.

I had three here of worst trends. Number one, anti semitism, absolutely disgusting and horrible to Trump's rehabilitation. We'll just leave it at that. And then three people have low moral character using the freedom of speech movement to whitewash their horrible personal behavior. Yes, I'm talking about Alex Jones to all the mids in the comments.

sacks. What was the worst trend for you? You had to have three, didn't you? Well, I'm going to go with anti semitism. Those are my two runners. Two runners. All right, fair enough. Yeah, I think you guys are like my worst trend. It is the metastasizing national debt. This chart really makes it clear you can see here the national debt as a function of deficit and revenues and it's a upside down hockey stick.

Jesus. If a company could produce user growth that looked like this, I would invest all day long. However, this is not growth. This is basically how much we owe. And it is a bipartisan problem. It's been going on for really 20 plus years. But it is getting worse and worse under Biden.

Yeah. 8 trillion added to the deficit under Trump and looks like five to 6 trillion under Biden. Well, you know, we did have a COVID. We did have meltdown where the economy was down 30% year over year. So the tax taxing COVID. Yeah, both parties supported that bailout. And in hindsight, it was excessive.

Yeah. Biden's quote unquote stimulus was passed on straight party lines after COVID was ready over. Yeah. So I think we should just make sure to apportion the blame correctly. But like I said, bipartisan problem. Yeah, I agree. bipartisan and Trump did a very ill timed tax cut before COVID.

So it's a double hit. If you want to compare it in eight years. Obama added 8 trillion. So it was 1 trillion a year. These new guys getting close to 2 trillion per year. So they doubled the velocity of spending. Just completely disastrous. Jamal. What's the worst trend for you?

I just think it's the the general state of affairs. Amongst our young people are 20 year olds and our 30 year olds, I think are really struggling. And it's gotten worse. I'll give you two examples. Here. You see on your screen. This year, 158,000 more Americans died than expected, which is more than all the wars combined in Vietnam.

And when you look at where those death rates are, those death rates were coming from 35 to 44 year olds, which was up 26%, and 25 to 34 year olds, which was up 20% above pre COVID levels. And all we can point to from the government establishment is that it's smoking and a bad diet, which doesn't really hang together.

And then the second trend is when you look at just general marriage rates amongst these same cohort of people, it's meaningfully worse than every cohort above it. So just societally, these folks are not tracking in whatever dimension you want to measure sort of like happiness, fulfillment, stability, safety, something is meaningfully wrong in these cohorts of people, and we owe it to them to figure it out.

The one thing you missed there, right, you're not in the Western world, at least 36% increase in suicide over the past two decades. So a lot. It's another one. So that might be the main one. I think in this is the mental health issues are acute. Okay, we have free bear your left for the worst trend, the bestie award for worst trend of 2023.

What do you got? I don't know, I had one, I'm going to change it on the fly. Oh, I'm going to go with the normalization of spending. I think it's probably the worst trend. Like it's, you know, it used to be a big deal. Remember when the TARP program happened in a way, and it was an incredible, single line item of $800 billion to support the troubled asset relief effort to try and keep the economy stable by buying up all of this failing debt and supporting all of these equities and keeping these businesses going.

And now it's like $100 billion for his trillion for that. It's like we've normalized spending and COVID just made it worse. So to your guys's point earlier about the acceleration of spending. Once you spend $1, you think it's okay to spend $1. And then next time you spend two, it's not that bad.

It's only $1 more. And the next time you spend five, it's only three bucks more. And suddenly, it becomes normal. And this normalization catches up to us. I've harped on this enough, so I won't go into it too much. But I think that's the worst. Who did you change from?

What was your what was your original? My original was the merging of the oppressor oppressed ideologies that are in diametric opposition to each other. I just found this more ironic than the worst trend, I think, which is like LGBTQ groups that were pro Hamas that were marching and supporting Hamas, which is anti LGBTQ.

It was just so mind blowing to me to see some of the behavior over the last couple of months that made absolutely no sense. And it shows how little first principles thinking people are actually doing about the things that they're standing up for. Standing up for a free Palestine is one kind of point.

But being pro Hamas, when Hamas would have a responsibility of eradicating people like you, it's just it's just nuts to me. So there's just some of the stuff that I've seen, where the oppressor oppressed ideology is trained to fit everything, even if it makes absolutely no sense. Yes, it's just really frustrating to see.

Okay, now we go on to a little casual, the bestie awards for 2023. Favorite media, favorite media, new things that came out in the media could be a video game, book, music, or a TV show. I'll lead us off here, just get it out of the way real quick.

For me, the secession finale, extraordinary, one of the best pieces of television ever made. And my sleeper was the bear season two, very niche show on FX, I think I turned a lot of you on to it. And season two had an episode episode five, which is the forks episode in which Kami sends Richie to intern at a very elite restaurant, and he's charged with polishing silverware.

And Garrett and him get into it. Why am I doing all this stupid stuff? And he just tells them listen, every day here is a freaking Super Bowl. And it's just a great, great, amazing episode of television with extraordinary performances and writing Chamath. Did you have any favorite media this year?

Anything that Taylor Swift did this year was Whitehall, you're a Swifty. She is a tour de force. She's incredible. And she's a genius. What can you say? Nothing sucks. I'm going to use my spot to draw attention to some podcasts that you may not have heard of. Some geopolitics and world affairs podcast.

So that probably my number one is the Duran. With Alexander victorious and Alex Christophero. I'd also give honorable mention to judge Napolitano's podcast and Colonel Daniel Davis. I have found these three podcasts to be quite useful in understanding what's happening in the rest of the world. And I found their reporting and analysis be more accurate than anything you're going to get in the mainstream media free break any favorite media for you as we get close to wrapping here.

I recently read a book that I liked. I don't know if I talked about it called the idea factory on the history of Bell Labs and the great age of American innovation strongly recommended I had no idea how much this Bell Labs institution touched modern life, from radar to the transistor, to the nuclear bomb to computing.

Even information theory was developed inside of Bell Labs. It was an incredible organization that took its roots in an institutionalized monopoly, which then enabled them to have one customer that was always a built in customer but gave them the freedom and the resourcing to build all of these great things.

And for anyone that wants to say that monopolies stifle innovation, I encourage you to read this book because it really says the opposite may be true, that a monopoly enables investment in long term thinking and long term ideas that you never otherwise see. So I give it to that.

I also had a softer one. Have you guys ever watched Bobby Alcoff's podcast? I found this so funny this year. You guys ever seen it? Her interview with Drake is hilarious. It's so funny. So she interviewed Drake. She's interviewed Cuban. Oh, yeah, I know you're talking about the deadpan.

Yeah, the deadpan. So she's got this like, wholly disinterested persona. And it totally encapsulates like a Gen Z, like personality in a way that you don't get in any other media. It's really, and she's hilarious when she does these interviews. And she's very unique, like Andy Kaufman, or Jim Carrey, like in that sense, like unique and how she does this.

I just think like, we'll see if the stick lasts, like she may end up kind of being tired soon and see if she has a second act. The Drake interview was really good. The one with Cuban had two problems with it. One, they sat on the ground and then two Cubans feet were really dirty.

Did you see the one with Shaq? And so I was like, bro, like, yeah, just keep the shoes on. And just you know, Shaq one was hilarious. But anyway, she's, she's got great contents. It's it's hit or miss. By the way, I'll also say it's not consistent, hit or miss.

But I don't know, I just found her to be a little bit of a unique standout in in content this year. Everyone's kind of me to me to look the same. She stood out a bit for me. In that vein, have you seen Z way? Zi we know she is a woman who interviews people and then she asks people very uncomfortable questions about race.

Like how many black friends you have named them. And it is hilarious. It is like the greatest bit ever. Z shout out to Z way Z way since we went there on who's seen it you saw tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you're on Tick Tock, you'll see it because she just had like, yeah, she just has anybody in pop culture.

George Santos on shit. Yeah. Wow. And it was just so incredible. Crazy. On the podcasting front. Shout out to our friend Gwyneth Paltrow. If you don't listen to the goo podcast, she does like interviews every other time. Really good. Red scare. Another great alternative podcast I like to listen to from the dirtbag left as they call it and shout out preparers cafe insider cafe.com.

All right. I think is this the end producer Nick? Are we here? Did we make it last one? Last one. We have a special award here. The self immolation award. This has been named after Rudy Giuliani. So Rudy Giuliani self immolation award. And this is a tough one to give this year sacks because it's gonna be quite self referential here.

Go. I am going to name Liz McGill, the now former president of the University of Pennsylvania. So well had been vomiting on herself for two months. In the aftermath of October 7, before she even appeared at that congressional hearing with the presence of Harvard MIT. She answered what was clearly a moral question with a tone deaf legalistic answer, saying that advocacy of genocide against Jews depends on context falls into question whether one is smart enough to be university president.

It's not a job that demands that much intelligence, but it does require an instinct for knowing when and how to cover your own ass. When she was finally forced to step down. It felt like a mercy killing. Yeah. Was she the one smirking to? Yeah, she had the awkward.

I found the most appalling was the awkward smirks. Yep. Chamath who lit themselves on fire. Most of all this year who poured gasoline over their heads and just lit up a stogie. I think it's the brand and reputation of the Ivies. I think that there was irreparable harm done.

Yes, we've had generations now that have been taught that that is where we send our best and brightest kids. But it turns out that they're getting indoctrinated into some very kind of extreme rhetoric that then produces these incapable first principles thinkers, that will be the destruction of our society if we don't fix it.

So I think Harvard applications were down 17% already. I expect that trend across the Ivies to go way up. I expect contributions to go down. I expect governments to ratchet down their spending in those schools. And I expect some folks to try to take away their nonprofit status. So I think that we are going to reallocate the brand equity of the Ivies to good schools.

And we will know what the good schools are based on their independence, their ability to churn out first principles thinkers and their respect for freedom of speech without being moral idiots. Friedberg, what do you got? Well, well, Sanchima Ivy League presidents. Okay, well done. No, no need to add too much more there, I guess.

You know, I was torn here between the namesake of this very award. If you missed it, Rudy Giuliani had $150 million judgment against him maybe two weeks ago for slandering to poor, innocent people in his electoral scam that he ran with Trump. And he, I think is going to get indicted next year for these fake electorates.

So follow the fake electorates one, but that was a close one for me, because Kanye West also lit himself on fire in the past year with the Adidas contract and his anti semitism getting kicked off Twitter x. But I feel like that was mental illness. And I think Rudy Giuliani is just stupid.

So I give it to Rudy Giuliani, the namesake of this award. And the only thing I'll say about that J Cal is, I'm not going to defend him or his actions at all. I do think I do think that judgment was excessive. And it's part of a pattern of ridiculous judgments that we see when you have, for example, a DC jury pool, judging a conservative or a Republican whose politics they disagree with.

The plaintiffs only asked for $48 million, the jury awarded three times that it's an excessive award, I think a few million dollars as a penalty would have been a perfectly nice award, I think to bankrupt the man, which is what you're talking about is becoming a bit of a pylon.

And I'm all in favor of Rudy being the butt of jokes until the point where really, you're talking about destroying his life. I think it's gone way too far. Yeah, these are words are curious at how large they are, they all get appealed, though, and they all come down.

So I'm sure that'll come down by some massive percentage in the near future. This has been the year end episode. Can you believe it? We made it another year, guys. Here we are at the end of 2023. We'll do our predictions next week. So you'll get our amazing predictions for 2024.

In the next episode. Any closing thoughts on the year we just had? Freeberg? How you feeling here at the end of the year? Are you hopeful? Are you cheery? Are you sad? Are you excited? I've been up since 5am and I just drank beers. So I'm pretty tired. But with respect, that's kind of how the whole year feels actually feel like I exhausted.

Yeah, I just got up early, crank through the day had some beer and I'm ready for a nap. But I'm I'm probably more optimistic going into 2024 than I was going into 2023. Because that's on a personal basis. And I think, yeah, there's just a lot going on today in the world.

Yeah, it's complex, isn't it? I do think as long as we embrace the Enlightenment and don't embrace the Dark Ages, we stand a shot at keeping progress alive. And I think that's the defining characteristics of human civilization is progress. And that's, I think, ultimately resolves all the conflicts and other things.

We just got to keep it alive. Well said. Chamath, how are you feeling here as we wrap up 2023 and looking into 2024? I think 2022 and 2023 have been looking back the most important two years of my professional career. I think I benefited like we all I think I think all four of us could say this, have just an incredible set of tailwinds.

And 22 and 23 for the first time where I was in a position of influence and capital and power where I had to confront that those tailwinds can quickly become headwinds and that we are not impervious to them. So I like Friedberg I'm looking forward to 24 where I can try to put all these learnings to good use.

So it's been generally good. And 23 was the most important year of my life in the sense that I got remarried. So that's been a huge personal highlight. Yes, beautiful. Love that you guys all came to that as well as a highlight for us to absolutely beautiful. Yeah, I'm ready to I'm ready to turn the page on this year and start 24.

sacks any closing thoughts here? Well, I think one of the biggest surprises of 2023 is that we didn't have a recession. I mean, I think most people were betting on a recession in 23. They thought that a soft landing would be almost impossible. And in fact, the data is that soft landings almost never occur.

Remember what Larry Summers said to us at our all in summit this year, which is soft landings are like second marriages. It's the triumph of hope over experience, meaning they almost never happen. And so the fact that we didn't get that I think that was basically a pretty important bullet dodge.

Now that being said, I do think that the whole b2b software industry definitely went through a recession. But fortunately, I think we bottomed out and starting to see green shoots now. So things are returning to normal. On the global stage. Things are still okay, in the sense that the US is not directly in a war, but man, it is pretty scary.

We could be pulled into a dynamic, very dynamic, we pulled into a war in the Middle East anytime we still have a proxy war going in Ukraine. So there are a lot of risks still on the horizon, I'll just say for the gentleman and for the audience, it has been wonderful to have all of you, the audience, the fans of the show, and you besties in my life, over two really tough years, it was also very proud of myself going into them.

I knew I was built for and it was a war the last few years, it was difficult, it was hard. But we all I think learned a lot and came out stronger because of it. And I just want to give a particular shout out to all of you guys for making this brand extraordinary and taking it to new heights.

Almost all the times I've built things, brands, and gadget, Silicon Iron Porter, all in whatever it is, it was a solo effort. And it's just been really rewarding to be part of a team. And I want to just give a particular note to freeburg, who I think all of us owe a real debt of gratitude towards he took the all in summit, which was a very strong start in 2022.

And he leveled it up in 2023. Amazingly, and I'm just so excited to see what we do in 2024. With this amazing brand memberships, tequilas, another 50 episode and a great all in summit next year, I hope so shout out to my guy freeberg for the dictator, the Sultan of science, chairman dictator, sorry, apologize for getting that incorrect there.

We'll get it right. Chairman dictator, and the rain man David Sachs, I am the world's greatest moderator and we will see you in 2024. Bye bye. Happy New Year. Love you guys. New Year bitches. Bye bye. Have your besties let your winners ride. Rain Man David Sachs we open source it to the fans and they've just gone crazy with it.

I love you. I'm the queen of quinoa. Let your winners ride. Besties are gone. That's my dog taking a notice in your driveway. Oh man. We should all just get a room and just have one big huge orgy because they're all just useless. It's like this like sexual tension, but they just need to release them out.

We need to get merch. Going on. Oh, man.