most real change in the world starts with just making better media information, better information. That's why whenever a dictator comes to a country, what is the first thing that they do? They stop the radio, they stop the TV, they take control of the newspapers. So the flow of information, if you change the flow of information, you change the flow of the way humans think.

If you change the way humans think, you change the world. What would you do? I think that it's very hard for people to see someone else's perspective without understanding it. The media is able to just show us the perspective that we believe in and we agree with and all that.

If people could just kind of go spend some time with other people who live different lives in an open-minded way, I think they have to be open-minded. So I think you can bring people together, but you also have to get them to be a little bit more open-minded. So it seems like it starts with media, but also