E41: Vaccine policy, Big Tech, DeepMind's latest breakthrough, wealth creation, opportunity & more

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Again, the Queen of Kinwa himself, David Friedberg. How are you doing, David? I'm hanging in there today. All right, people are looking for the dog. Where's the dog? Monty. He's sitting here on the floor. Monty, come here. Come on. Come here. Come on, Monty. All right. And from a random palace somewhere in the world.

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So I adopted the three year old. He has a parasite. So he's been pooing everywhere, everywhere. That's great information for the call over the cat all over the castle all over the castle. Fantastic. Liquid poop, by the way, but we finally diagnosed it today and he's going to the to the vet to get some liquids and to get the parasite expunged from his body.

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The kids were like that. We found this like, I think, you know, golden that is really calm, you know, like she's just super low energy and calm. It's like perfect for us. I'm like, I don't know. I think that's just like the puppies kind of asleep, you know, like it's gonna wake up.

They're like, no, no, no, no, no. This is like a special dog. It's like really well behaved or so. Anyway, we get it. Sure enough, like a week later, the puppy wakes up. And she's eating everything in the house, destroying everything. It's been Yeah, so now we're wait, is that dog number two or three for you?

It's dog two with the dog. One was a rescue dog. Who's great. So dog number two is now getting trained. All right, David Sachs is with us. Of course, the Rayman himself and in related dog stories. I put all the girls to bed and then I hear screaming. I get up, I run outside.

Literally the new bulldog who's nine months old. Maximus this guy went on, you know, one of his running fits, one of my daughters falls out of bed, gets like a bruise on her like lower back and she's whaling, the other daughter feels terrible about it. And then the dog decides that he is going to projectile vomit everywhere.

All at the same time. You guys have had these moments where like, it's just complete utter chaos, it's chaos, chaos. It's cats, dogs plus kids equals chaos. So I don't know if I said any other way. I love the combo of dogs and kids. It's just the best. It's pretty great.

It's dogs are amazing. And kids, especially when you bring in a new dog or a puppy into the house. It's chaos, but it's a really beautiful chaos. Well, you know what I think also is like, think about how overrated everything in life is people like, Oh my god, this place with the pasta in Italy, it's the greatest life changing thing.

And all this movie was incredible. It's the best movie ever made. And it's never the best movie ever made or the best pasta ever. It's great or whatever. But I think kids and dogs are underrated. universally have as many kids as you can possibly biologically have and can economically afford is my one opinion.

And the more dogs the better. I love dogs. Yeah. All right. I think we should start with the COVID cases, because this is impacting everything from the economy, to people's decisions, touching on people's freedoms. And it's hard to know where to start here. But I think facts are always a good I think facts are always a good place to start.

But I think facts are always a good place to start. But I think facts are always a good place to start. But I think facts are always a good place to start. But I think facts are always a good place to start. But I think facts are always a good place to start.

But I think facts are always a good place to start. But I think facts are always a good place but I think facts are always a good place to start. Here in the United States, we had gotten COVID cases, you know, to that 12,000 a day average, it was pretty amazing.

And it looked like it was gonna go straight down smooth sailing. And we had deaths down and around. I saw some seven day averages, where we were at 150 200. Now the weekends are kind of weird, in terms of reporting, but the seven day average today is at 248.

In other words, it's been flat. For a month, when you do this, this is according to the New York Times statistics and Google, you can search for Google and you'll find these have some great data that they'll just put right in the search result. However, cases have gone from this 1215 K a day average, soaring in just 30 days to 62,000 a day and a seven day average of 40,000.

So we're basically tripled the number of cases, cases trail traditionally debts by something in the neighborhood, and that's the average in the neighborhood of 10 days, I think I'm correct, Friedberg. So what do you think is actually going to happen here, we're gonna we're gonna get up to 10 100,000, 200,000 cases a day, and maybe double the number of deaths from the people who are not vaccinated?

Yeah, you know, the current logic on this is that there will be because of the number of people that are generally infected and are spreading what is now an even more infectious variant of COVID. So we're going to see that the number of people that are not vaccinated are starting to get it at a higher rate.

And that's where the deaths are starting to come from. So yeah, we will see deaths climb. And I think like we talked about last time, we're starting to see even Gavin did an interview yesterday in California talking about how, you know, there it's on the table that we may go back to certain restrictions, behavioral restrictions, mask mandates, etc.

So there's going to be a set of reactions. And then we're going to see the market start to react to the potential of that on Monday. And then very interestingly, kind of reverse course, Tuesday, and everything came back, when everyone was freaked out on Monday after they saw the weekend's data, which showed that cases are climbing like crazy in the US.

But I think the conventional wisdom is not that many people are going to die. Therefore, we're not going to see, you know, political leaders, force restrictions that are kind of going to damage the economy. And we're going to start to walk what I think Israel is calling the golden road, which is balancing the economy with the the health of the citizenry.

So. So you know, we'll see, it's going to come down to policy. But I think from a desk perspective, there will absolutely be a rise in deaths now as unvaccinated people are the going to be the bulk of those deaths. And, and this thing is spreading again amongst people that haven't been vaccinated.

Well, and then sacks, this becomes now a great raw shock test of what do you see in this data and in this moment, because it's a pandemic, as many people are saying, now, it's going to be a pandemic. Now, I think this is becoming the meme or the catchphrase.

It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. So people have chosen to opt into this pandemic, and then a group of us have chosen to not be part of it, you were part of it, even as a vaccinated person, but you're feeling great. You're back to 100%. So what do you think should happen in terms of closings or shutdowns, or mask mandates?

What's your take on the pandemic situation? Well, I think we need to differentiate between public policy and private behavior. So yeah, after last week's episode where I said, you know, Delta variants real, there's gonna be huge spike in cases. Unfortunately, I thought we had this thing whipped, you know, a few weeks ago, now, I think the data is showing something different.

You know, everyone, there's a lot of commenters saying sacks, you've turned you've been blue pilled. No, it's, you know, I think there's a difference between acknowledging what's going on, and then having the the policy conversation around it. I think that the difference now from last year, I mean, there's a couple of things.

One is that we do have vaccines. So I think for most people getting vaccinated will take the worst risks off the table. The other is we know so much more about what works and what doesn't work. And so lockdowns don't work if you know, if they ever did, they, they, they, we now know, looking at from what different states did last year, that they don't make a difference.

So there's no reason to go back and look at the data. So I think that's a big difference. And I think that's a big difference. And I think that's a big difference. And I think that's a big difference. And I think that's a big difference. But also, I mean, I would even say on mass, it should be wait, do we know that?

I mean, it's I think so. Are we sure of that? Yeah, I think so. Because the thing that the government planners never take into account is that private citizens are going to adjust their behavior in both directions. So in Florida, they didn't have mandates, but people who are at risk took, you know, extreme precautions, they would either lock themselves down or be very fastidious about wearing a high quality mask.

By contrast, in California, we had the most severe lockdowns, but they were never really feasible. So there's 10 pages of exceptions, people didn't really abide by them. And then on top of it, you know, you have all these mass mandates. But if somebody wears like a sock, loosely affixed to their face, does that really protect them?

You know, so, you know, people, if they're, if they're not interested in complying with these mandates, they do it in a half hearted way. I'm not convinced that the mandates work in the first place. So the smart thing to do here is just to have recommendations and let private citizens decide what their response is going to be.

We know now so much more about the risks that we all face than we did a year ago. And so just let private citizens decide. I mean, I'd even say on vaccines, I mean, look, I'm pro vax, I don't really understand where the anti vax people are coming from.

But I'm kind of done wasting my breath trying to convince people to get vaccinated, you know, on this show, who don't want to get vaccinated, you know, if they don't want to get vaccinated, they want to send those doses to the developing world, where they're desperate for them. Let me ask you, Chamath, do you do you agree with Sax's position that listen, citizens are just going to have to make their own decision here, leave everything open.

And let's not have the economy collapse again. And people, people are smart enough to make their own decision. And is this framing of this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated the correct framing? Wow, I'm really of two minds. There's, there's the part of me that says that you have to give people the right to make their own decisions.

The problem is that in this specific case, there's so much transmissibility. And as a result of that, how this thing can mutate, that I think that public health has to take a priority over any individual individuals rights in this very specific narrow, narrow case, because the delta variant is so transmission, transmissible, people are going to have to lose some freedom.

And this is a very important point. And if you look at the data from the CDC, it is so clear that the people who are in the public health system, they are the ones who are going to have to have to be vaccinated. And so the thing that I'm trying to do, and I think that's a really important point, is that you're going to have to give people the right to make their own decisions.

And that's the point that I was trying to make, that I'm trying to make a point that I'm trying to make that the people who are vaccinated, they are the ones who are going to have to be vaccinated. And that's not going to be the case for all of us.

then I think live and let live. But I think on this specific issue, I think that it's unconscionable to be in a situation where we are fighting basically a time function where at a certain amount of time, you're going to have a variant that is, basically will overcome all the vaccines we have, will kill enormous numbers of people, including the vaccinated, will literally shut the economy down and that's a probabilistic event now.

And I don't like the fact that I'm susceptible to that because of a bunch of people who frankly, aren't doing it for medical or religious reasons. They're just watching Fox News and just spouting off. I agree that we're at risk there, but we're also at risk from unvaccinated people in the rest of the world.

So Delta variant came from India, the Lambda variant, I think the wrong came from Peru. I mean, the fact of the matter is unvaccinated people everywhere are a potential petri dish for the virus. So I'd rather, I mean, this is why we need to send those unused doses that by the way, are at risk of expiring.

We now, I mean, there was a tweet about this recently. There's huge stockpiles of vaccine in the US that are going to waste right now. We should ship those anywhere in the world that people are ready to get vaccinated. Well, specifically to Mexico and Canada, and Canada's, I think this month going to, even though we got off to a massive headstart, going to eclipse us in terms of the percentage vaccinated.

Let me ask it more pointedly. Should teachers be, public school teachers be forced to be vaccinated? Should you be forced to have a vaccine card to get on public transportation, airplanes, or take buses, long haul buses, long haul trains? And then third, should you be forced to show a vaccine card to get on to go to sporting events or concerts?

Let's go through those three. So your personal freedom ends, you're going to be forced. If you want to go to group behaviors, if you want to participate, if you want to participate in a public construct, if you want to consume a public resource, or if you want to provide a publicly funded good, then it's the broader public's rights that are superior to your individual rights.

Otherwise, work at a charter school where it's not required, watch the fucking concert from home, or drive your car, use a bicycle, or take an Uber. The end. Sax, what do you think? And then Freeberg. So I understand that argument. I would differentiate between public and private requirements, because I don't like the idea of giving government the power to forcibly stick a needle in your arm.

So. Well, what you might say, you could stay home or you could take your bicycle. Well, sure. So is that reasonable that you don't get to go to a Warriors game because you're unvaccinated? Yeah, I think, you know, the Warriors Stadium is is privately owned. The team is private.

So I think the I think that private companies should be able to set up their own rules for the benefit of their employees and customers. What about airlines? Because that is. You know, a gate. It's there's a limited number of them. Yeah, I think so. Airlines should be able to force it.

Now, what about school teachers? Should they be forced? They can't force it, but they can set the requirements for you to board their planes, you know? Okay. Now what about public schools? Should if let's do teachers and students, should teachers be forced to get a vaccine if they want to come in?

Because you said if they don't come to work in the fall on a couple episodes back, you're fired. Well, why wouldn't they want to get a vaccine? The whole debate with the teachers unions was that they wanted to be at the front of the line for vaccines, which isn't an issue anymore because we have so many.

So I don't think that's a serious issue now requiring the kids to get vaccinated is that that would be the real policy question. And well, let's tackle both. Should teachers be forced to get the vaccine? Yes or no? You just kind of brushed over. Yeah, you put force force.

No, I mean, I think it's important to just to just, you know, pinpoint that it's like forcing teachers to get vaccinated in order to, you know, work at the school. I just want to highlight the precedent it sets, right? Which is, you know, you just said you don't want the government to tell people that they have to go get a shot in their arm.

If someone has a personal choice that they don't want to get that shot, does that mean then that they, you know, should lose their job as a public servant? Well, I mean, no, I'm saying that, look, I think. You said it's not a big deal, but like if there's one or two teachers that say, you know what, it is a big deal to me, I have a different I have a set of reasons why I don't want to get shot.

I think. Those teachers, that's an assumption of risk. I mean, if they've decided they're going to assume the risk, then, you know, don't come crying to us when they get sick. Well, the argument is that was your choice, the vector of exposure, right? That they can potentially petri dishes as they could be that they get they could be the vector that gets kids sick.

In all of these situations, there's an always a very obvious and justifiable exemption for religious and medical reasons to not be vaccinated, not just for this, but for anything else. So I struggle to understand why all of a sudden people who don't have a fucking clue about science are all of a sudden these armchair scientists who can judge whether or not a vaccine is appropriate for them, where they probably already gave vaccines of all other kinds to their kids and themselves.

They probably take all other kinds of advice from doctors. But on this one specific issue, they narrowly say, you know what? I'm an expert enough because I'm watching this television show. I've made a decision. That. To me makes no sense. Yeah. Look, I actually agree with you. I'm in the camp of that.

Everybody, barring some, you know, highly specific medical condition that renders you ineligible should be getting vaccinated. So I agree with you about what the right answer is. But I do think that when it comes to government, it's it's a more complicated question about how much power you give to government to force people to engage in, you know, behavior they don't want to engage in.

Can you. I mean, I think that's a very difficult question. Private organizations are different. We'll agree on private organizations, but we do have to make some decisions on public transportation and we do have to make decisions about teachers and we're going to have to make decisions on students. So could you bench the teachers who or otherwise penalize them who are not vaccinated?

You know, there are some times where, you know, a cop or a teacher is put in a, you know, not in the classroom, not on the beat for whatever reasons, sometimes disciplinary. Other reasons. Could you just say, listen, if you're not going to get vaccinated, you're going to not be in the classroom, you're not going to you'll be a remote teacher and we're just going to create two classes here.

I don't think I don't I don't think there are many teachers who don't want to get vaccinated, but. But I look, I think the virus is everywhere now, it's just endemic. And so to single out like one particular group and say, you're going to lose your job. You down on your opinion.

So you're saying teachers should not be forced. I'm saying that. I mean, if they work at a private school, the private school could definitely require it. We're talking about public only now. We all agree on private. Look, I think you're saying I think it's a really good thing. You're down on it.

Yeah. I think it's a really complicated question because I think there are clear public health benefits to everyone getting vaccinated. But I also don't really like empowering government to force you because, look, it's like everything else. The government may be right in this particular case, but what else is it going to do with that power?

And, you know, I don't like giving government that power. So, look, it's a complicated question. I don't you know. It's not I would I would probably err on the side of not letting government force people to do it. But but but look, I think it's a close call. I do think it's a close call.

Chamath forced the teachers to get vaccinated or not. Yes. And the reason is because these kids are already being left behind even when school is functioning normally. And you can see it in the test scores. You can see it in our readiness. You can see it in our ability to actually do the jobs that are required.

We are not doing what we need to do as it is in the absence of a pandemic. And now you introduce a reason for folks to basically check out and not appear. I what do you guys guess how how many years were lost in these 15 months when kids were at home?

I would say not 15 months. No, it's more. Two years, two and a half years, three years. It's also this psychological scarring, depending on what grade they are. What? Did your kids miss graduation? Did they miss senior prom? Did they miss their SATs? I mean, what did they miss in terms of?

Yeah, I mean, Chamath Chamath is a good point, which is that if that that when government is the employer requiring it on their employees because it leads to better outcomes for that institution, that is a little different than government just mandating that you Jason Calacanis private citizen have to go get a shot in your arm.

Right? I mean, so. So there is a slight difference there, like military, for instance, right? The military probably wants to vaccinate everybody so that if they need to be ready for a combat situation, they're not like, you know, incapacitated by an outbreak of COVID. Right? So I can I think they're, you know, we're getting into shades of gray here from a public policy perspective.

You know, I don't want teachers missing school because, you know, for weeks at a time because they didn't do the obvious thing, getting the COVID vaccine. So, look, I think there are some really good public policy arguments there. But I think, again, the the one place where I'd say government is clearly overstepping is if they just said, listen, you private citizen, not an employee of the government has to go get vaccinated as much as I would like everyone to to to get vaccinated.

I don't want to give government that kind of power. President Biden could legally require military members to get vaccinated, but so far he has declined to do so. July 9th. New York Times. Freedberg. Where do you stand on this? Chamath says he's all in your teacher. You get vaccinated.

The end. SACS is kind of close, but is a little concerned. What do you say, Freedberg? I mean, another way to frame it is that there is a new qualification for a job like, you know, there's qualification to be in the military. You have to have certain physical capabilities.

Jason, I don't know if you would qualify. I don't think I would. I mean, I can be like. For totally different reasons. Your inability to fight or throw a punch would be. No, maybe J. Cal could eat the enemy. Yeah. But trust me, I would be great in the military.

I'm a berserker. He'd be like Clemenza. He'd be cooking the meatballs or something. Private Joker. Private pile of doughnut. There's the I think the reason there's sensitivity to it is because there are existing teachers in jobs and then you're telling them that in order to keep your job, you have to go get a vaccine.

Now, if we. Exactly. If we were to have zero teachers today and we were starting a public school system from scratch and you said, here's one of the qualifying criteria to be a school teacher, you have to have an education degree. You have to have maybe a master's degree in education.

You have to have appropriate qualifications and training and certification. Oh, and by the way, you also have to have a vaccine. If that becomes a criteria, I think people find it less offensive. It's the fact that we are now saying that there are people that are being told that you have to go get a shot in order to keep your job.

And that's the complicating thing that I think people are trying to wade through. I don't have. I don't think that if you were to say like, look, it's obvious that the qualifying criteria to be in the military is you have to be able to run and do push ups or whatever the criteria might be.

But if you impose that on people that were already in the military and then you're going to kick a bunch of them out, people would be up in arms about it. If you had a BMI requirement. Yeah. And that's the concern I think that arises with imposing these kind of personal body criteria.

You know, specific jobs when people are already employed in that job. And it's there's there's absolutely no answer, right? Like if you're going to do it, you're going to have incredible backlash and trouble and pain. And if you were to and we're not in a circumstance where we can build these organizations and these institutions from scratch.

Look, there's a lot of social issues where, you know, particularly on the liberal side, people do not want the government prohibiting them from getting certain medical treatment. Right. And so, you know, I think that's a big issue. And I think that's a big issue. And I think that's a big issue.

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And I think that's a big issue. And I think that's a big issue. And I think that's a big issue. And I think that's a big issue. And I mean, I can't believe we're still having that conversation a year later. Can I, before we move on to the next topic, can I read the best comment from Sax's tweet?

So Sax's tweet, "Just because an opinion is wrong doesn't mean it should be censored. Just because a behavior is harmful doesn't mean it should be prohibited. Just because something is beneficial doesn't mean it should be required." The best response goes to Distantly Social Rumple, whose full name is @Wendy.

@Wendy_Scherk, who said, "This message brought to you by the generic self-serving platitude alert network. We now return you to your regularly scheduled episode of the bland soap opera with the Pablum sisters." Well, yeah, look, there's an element of truth to that, which is I almost didn't tweet it because I thought it was too much of a platitude.

But the fact that people on the other side got so triggered by it shows why it was actually useful to tweet it. They think that if you're calling for any modicum of freedom or return to normalcy, you're basically a selfish asshole. I mean, it's insane. I mean, they want to stay in this world of zeroest COVID restrictions forever.

We got to move on. We're 45 minutes into COVID, so we got to move on. But I think if this is in the influenza plus or minus 100% zone, we got to pick a number where we decide we're moving forward as a society. I mean, local communities can make decisions if they have outbreaks, but I kind of think if this is within, you know, 2x of our yearly deaths from, you know, influenza and just the normal cold, I think we move forward as best we can.

Do we want to go to China, Cuba? I think just real quick before we move away from this, I really want to just highlight the DeepMind announcement from this morning because I think it's actually quite relevant to the tracking of variants and what's been going on. Okay. So this morning, you know, DeepMind, which published AlphaFast, which is a very, very powerful, we talked about this a few episodes ago.

DeepMind is owned by Google. It's their AI arm. It's an AI arm owned by Google and they basically took protein structure and tried to predict what a protein looks like physically as a function of the DNA or RNA that codes the amino acids that make up the protein. And so again, like when you have a string of amino acids, they combine and they fold into a way that's really hard to predict.

And that's the shape of the molecule that we call the protein. And then it does something in the body. And historically, we've had very... Very hard times understanding how genetic code translates into physical structure of protein, which would allow us to predict what that protein can then do in the body.

So this morning, DeepMind incredibly published a database with the predicted structure of every protein in the human body and in 10 other species using this capability that they now have. What does it mean in English? And so, you know, what this means is we now have a physical model of every protein that the DNA can make.

And that model would allow us to basically now predict what that protein does, how it does it and how certain drugs can bind to those proteins, and how certain drugs can affect those proteins and how we can alter human health by making new molecules or adjusting the genetic code to change the shape of those proteins in specific and targeted ways.

So it's an incredible data set that was just published. It's almost like, you know, releasing the Rosetta Stone, in my opinion. In terms of the DNA. In terms of we now have this ability to translate human genetic code into the physical form of the molecules that run our body and do things in our body.

They did it for 10 other species. And they said that they're going to publish this proteome database and scale it for all other species of life that we have the sort of data set around for which they expect will achieve over 100 million unique proteins in this database over the coming months freely available and searchable.

And let me just explain and I know I'm on a monologue here. So I'll win the monologue stat. It's a good one. It's a good one. But let me just explain why this is relevant. So the Delta variant, what it is, is that you know, the SARS CoV-2 RNA sequence is about 30,000 base pairs long.

10% of those are about 3000 base pairs make up the spike protein, which is the protein at the tip of the COVID virus, the coronavirus that gets into the cells. And you know, for every 10 people that are infected with Coronavirus, there's about one nucleoside mutation, one of those base pairs changes, and the virus evolves.

And we don't know how that change. And so we're going to look at the genetic code, and we're like, Oh, here's the changes that happened. But we could have with this capability from AlphaFold predicted what changes make the spike protein do a better job binding to human ACE2 receptors on the cells and getting into cells and what other changes could be made in the whole genome.

And so we're going to look at the DNA of the SARS CoV-2 virus that could cause this virus to be more transmissible, more deadly, all these sorts of factors, because we can now estimate the physical form of that protein by changing the base pair. And so this tool that was released today, I think highlights that over the next decade, these sorts of things that are going on with viruses mutating and variants occurring that are affecting our population can be better estimated and tracked digitally.

And it gives us the ability to start to prepare tools and defense mechanisms against them, with new drugs and new variant models and new vaccines, well ahead of the Oh, my God, we just got hit with a nuclear bomb. Let's clean up the mess kind of in the future.

So it's an exciting day, an exciting moment. Would they have been released this, David, if it hadn't been for COVID coming out? Do you think DeepMind just pivoted their entire group up because they have about 1000 people I understand. And by the way, they pay something in the order of six or 700,000 a year on average.

And there's many people there who are getting paid. They're getting paid millions of dollars a year. So just think about the scale of what Google is spending on this. You guys know that I probably shifted a large number of people to work on this. You guys know that I have long deep roots at Google.

And I will tell you that the value system of people there, you know, the press and the public will think what they want. But I think that the value system of people there drove them to realize the importance of this work that they're doing with AlphaFold. And it is important for humanity and it's important for the health broadly of people.

And I think that's why Google is doing this. I think that's why Google is doing this. I think that's why Google is doing this. I think that's why Google is doing this. I think that's why Google is doing this. And I think that's why Google is doing this. And I think that's why Google is doing this.

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E41: Vaccine policy, Big Tech, DeepMind's latest breakthrough, wealth creation, opportunity & more

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