
I cannot take credit for the long-term established discipline of prayer in our church that belongs to some faithful members in our church who have taught us all to pray. They were prayer warriors when I came every season of my life where I've noticed prayerlessness far far more than you know obviously you don't want to have prayerlessness but you know sometimes in leaders lives they can be self-reliant and any season like that in my life these people in our church these wonderful saints who have developed the discipline of prayer in their life become a rebuke to to me and to the church and so but I would say that if I were looking at my own heart personally and the elders collectively we we want to always be not asking the generic questions but the very careful questions about people's needs in a way that puts them on our mind you know it's interesting that when Paul would say over and over again I keep making mention to you of you in my prayers it's clear that he had lists he made lists there's this formal way that he cycled through the needs of people and you know we might have a a lot to answer for before the Lord when we have a cell phone right there when we can just put lists at our fingertips when back in his day it was you know how he made those lists and how he kept track of them must have been a discipline in and of itself but your leaders have to be praying people so we have times of prayer as a service as a church but all over the church we've admired and elevated those who develop that discipline so that the congregation can learn from those that have the greatest you know faithfulness at it