NBA players have access to excess, and most people don't have that. And so for the person on the outside who's like, I would never do that. First of all, you don't got the money. You're not in a different city pretty much every night with your own hotel room. You don't know what it's like to have girls waiting in the lobby for you.

Right. That are the baddest you've ever seen saying, take both of us upstairs and let's get it popping. Yeah, you don't have to worry about that. You get to live a very quiet, peaceful, chill life day to day and be around the same people. For us, it's just different.

That character development, it has to be way more intentional if you want to live a life of integrity. The majority of guys in the industry, they're not trying to live a life of integrity. So these are the guys you're around every single day, and it's really hard to completely walk a different direction.