How do you define confidence? There's like your confidence for yourself. I can handle whatever happens, but I discovered that there's a cap on that. Like how joyful and awesome our lives can be. There's a ceiling on self-confidence and to go higher into really thriving in life, I think we need to have confidence in something beyond ourselves.

Whatever you wanna put in that box, I don't care. But that's the kind of belief that's tapped into that. Hey, even out of the challenging experience, something extraordinary is gonna come.