A really important question comes in from a listener named Nicholas, who went to the Ask Pastor John homepage and emailed us this question. Hi Pastor John. In Hebrews 12, 2 and Nehemiah 8, 10, what is meant by the phrase "the joy of the Lord"? How can we find this joy, and how can we apply this joy to our lives?

This is one of the most important questions that anyone can ask, because everyone wants to be happy and never lose their happiness in the miseries of hell, and therefore how to find joy and experience it to the full is what everybody cares about and ought to care about. And if it's possible that we could actually share in the joy of God Almighty, nothing could be greater, and nothing would be more stable and lasting.

So this is important. The reference to the joy of the Lord in Nehemiah 8 means at least the joy that the Lord Himself gives. "Go your way, eat the fat, drink sweet wine, and send portions to anyone who has nothing ready, for this day is holy to the Lord.

Do not be grieved, for the joy of the Lord is your strength." And the joy referred to in Hebrews 2, 12 is clearly the very joy that Jesus Himself has today in heaven, which sustained Him through suffering. It says, "Looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God." Now, what I assume that Nicholas is asking is something like this.

What is the fullest, deepest, most lasting kind of joy that a human being can have from God? And how can I get it? How can I find it? Now, those texts, those two that he mentioned, are pointers for sure. But I'm going to go to another text where the answer is given even more clearly.

Namely, I'm going to go to the Gospel of John, chapter 15, verse 11, where Jesus says, "These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full." Now, the reason this text is so important is that Jesus refers to His own joy as being in us.

Not just giving us a joy, but His joy in whatever He's joyful in is in us. We're not just rejoicing over what we know about Jesus. We're rejoicing with the very joy of Jesus over what He knows about everything, especially what He knows about His Father. So let's make sure we hear it again.

Let me say it again. This is Jesus. "I have given all these instructions to you," He says, "about what it means to be in the vine." That's what John 15 is about. I'm the vine. You're the branches. "I've given all these instructions to you so that you would enjoy my joy with me." So that my joy would be in you as your joy.

Now, this is incredible, almost. "My joy may be in you, and your joy may be full." In other words, the reason your joy can now be as full as it is, and moving toward perfect fullness when all our battle with sin is over, is because in union with me, the branch in the vine, you no longer enjoy merely your joy.

You now have my joy in you, and you enjoy what I enjoy as your joy, as you abide in me. If you want to press further up and further into this mystery, which I think is a good idea, we can ask, "Is it not the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, the indwelling of the very person of the Trinity, who himself is the embodiment of the joy that the Father has in the Son, and the Son has in the Father?

Isn't this joy of Jesus in us the presence of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of God?" So when the Holy Spirit comes like a dove upon Jesus at his baptism, how does the Father put that into words? He says, "This is my beloved Son, this Jesus, in whom I am well pleased." In other words, God takes infinite pleasure in the excellencies of his Son, and this pleasure is symbolized at his baptism by the coming of the Holy Spirit as a dove landing upon him.

And listen to how Jesus prays for us at the end of John 17. "I made known to them your name, Father, and I will continue to make it known that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them." In other words, the very love which the Father has for the Son, delights in, pleased by, cherishes, treasures the Son, that very joyful love will be in us so that we have the capacities to love and enjoy the Son with the very love and joy of the Father.

Oh, for the day! Oh, for the day! So in answer to Nicholas's question, I would say, pursue the experience of this joy by looking steadfastly at the whole array of excellencies of Christ in the Word of God, while crying out continually for the Spirit to come and open your eyes to see this glory and to savor this glory with the very savoring of God.

In answer to that prayer, God will give you significant measures of the joy of the Lord in this life, and then at the end, you will hear him say, "Enter into the joy of your Master," and it will be full and unmixed forever. Oh, amen. That's glorious. Thank you, Pastor John.

We talk a lot about joy on this podcast. What is true joy, and how do we find it and apply it to our lives? And in the podcast archive, I see 50 episodes with the words "joy" or "happy" in the titles alone. You can find all of them and about 850 other episodes right now in that archive.

Scan those episodes really easily in the APJ app for Apple and Android devices, or go to our web home at desiringgod.org/askpastorjohn. Well, can Satan devour Christians? 1 Peter 5:8 seems to imply that, yes, we can be devoured. Yikes. So what does that mean, and how can we be safe?

That's tomorrow on the Ask Pastor John podcast. I'm your host, Tony Reinke. Thanks for listening to the podcast with longtime pastor and author John Piper. We'll see you tomorrow.