where you'll be where you'll be where you'll be for me i am recording testing i am testing my recording and here we go here we go in three two let your winners ride brain man david sacks and instead we open source it to the fans and they've just gone crazy hey everybody it's the all in podcast wet your beak young spielberg coming at you on a friday morning afternoon draft time the number 11 podcast in the world it's the all-in podcast with the queen of quinoa david friedberg rain man himself with his hot new track from young spielberg i am the rain man david sacks and of course wetting his beak the absolute dictator wetting his beak with his merch merch game is strong chamath poly hoppa tia how's everybody doing on the backs of us becoming the number 11 podcast in the world really good really wow look at that enthusiasm really great no i think we had an intermittent uh uh uh saxipoo is not apparently you know with with all these with all his weak uh beak wetting he hasn't had time to pay the internet bill you can go ahead and upgrade your dsl from from 56 kilobits i think you can afford it okay he's hit his bandwidth limit because he was watching himself on tucker over and over again this morning i'm sorry i'm sorry i do i do need to say this that yesterday we do have first-hand evidence that david sacks after appearing on tucker carlson then spent the next hour watching himself appear on tucker carlson literally got up from the poker table my gosh refused to play poker with his besties because he had to watch himself on more than six times on tucker oh my gosh no it must have been watched 20 30 times no no headphones just listening to the iphone looking at it no just holding it up to his ear just so he doesn't miss a word optimizing his performance what was it like to go on fox news was this a dream for you sax is this a is this a bucket list see jason this is why you're such a scumbag because i i asked you guys i said hey like tucker shows invited me on should i go you know and and you guys are like yeah yeah it'll be great for ratings for the pod you should definitely do it and then after i do it the first thing you guys say when i walk in the room is oh my god you went on tucker how right wing are you do you realize that all your deal flow just got cancelled yum yum i'm gonna get all your deals by the way that was the funniest part jason had premeditated basically getting you to appear on tucker so as to impugn you and destroy you jacob goes oh i'm gonna get all your deals now yum yum all is fair when it comes to early stage deal flow yeah and then he starts tweeting you know he's like the first one to show a photo of me split screen with tucker and i was waiting i was i was literally watching it and it's time for the great takedown actually you did in all seriousness you did great um i think it was worth doing and he framed it as i don't know if people saw it you can look up tucker carson bestie david sacks it'll come up number one and um he said you were um essentially taking a very liberal classic liberal point of view so he basically set the stage for you to be a liberal and he basically set the stage for you to not be a far right wing nut case you were actually defending liberal principles of people should have the ability to have freedom of speech why don't you talk about what it was like yeah i mean so so you're right i mean he made the the connection in the comparison to net uh hentoff who was like the famous aclu free speech lawyer and uh and i really appreciated that because i do very much see myself in that mold of uh of somebody like hentoff um he wrote a book called uh free speech for me but not for thee um sort of a famous line because everybody wants free speech for themselves and their allies but they want to deny it to people they disagree with and you know they never seem to realize that censorship is a problem until it gets turned against them and so you know the point i made about the these reddit kids who are censored is that look this this was not what they there was some raunchy speech in their message board uh we all know that but it was no different than any trading floor trading pit or boiler room on walter's house or whatever it was street right it's the same kind of language yet they were taken down and censored by discord for for hate speech why because they became very threatening to you know powerful insiders and um you know but how many of those those reddit kids uh saw it as a problem when you know trump or his supporters got or parlor got deplatformed a few weeks ago they could never have imagined that that same censorship principle could ever get turned against them and so we all have a blind spot to towards censorship but we all have a blind spot to towards censorship because we're all in the same place and we're all in the same place and we're all in the same place and so you know we've got to be very careful about censorship when we like the results and you know hentoff's point is always look it's not about the results it's about who are you giving the power to to to censor too and that's what you have to be really careful of in relation to that how delightful has it been to not have trump on twitter putting aside you know censorship even for you as a republican uh socially you're live and let live uh pro lbgtq of course uh and but to not have trump on twitter has been all that cognitive space has come back we get it all back silence silence is is is bliss what did you guys think about um what is her name marjorie blah blah green who just got completely censored what what exactly happened yes sax is that censorship yeah and if you're a crazy loon who believes that was a false flag what do we do there no i mean that's not that's not censorship it's just she got censured i guess um because her colleagues thought she was out of line that's okay i mean if her colleagues want to vote for that that's fine so she can still say crazy stuff she just can't do it and have this certain job yeah i mean look let's face it when when politicians say crazy stuff it helps the other side i mean you know marjorie green or whatever her censorship who does that help it helps the democrats um you know quite frankly uh does trump being off twitter uh does that really help democrats i don't think so i mean um you know you could argue that that biden or or that trump is the one unifying opposition to trump is the one unifying force in the democratic coalition so the the more trump is out there the the more it bonds the democratic coalition together um so yeah i mean censorship has this way of like backfiring and uh you can't just look at it in terms of narrow short-term political results speaking of censorship i want to get your take on something else i think these last two weeks have been a complete sea change in venture capital and let me give you the setup it's all of a sudden seemed like there's been a decision that's been made where the ecosystem of companies will basically use their own platforms and their own mediums to completely control the narrative and the dissemination of information about them that the media in the effort of company building may have taken a big step back um you know i think uh the whole sort of like thing on clubhouse was really interesting i think uh this guy who just joined andreessen horowitz um who actually hosts a show on clubhouse is really interesting um i think there's some like really interesting emerging managers who just have these incredibly different ways of around this is name um he's been hosting good times at 11 10 or 11 p.m every night on clubhouse mark andreessen comes to it every night and of course elon came interviewed vlad and then last night zuckerberg showed up uh in order to get the blueprints for clubhouse to then put it into instagram and facebook but what do you guys what do you guys think of sort of like this entire sector of the economy basically trying to i guess organize an economy that's not just about the end around it's traditional media it doesn't seem like it's just venture right i mean look at look at trump you know he avoided having the traditional press conference as the the channel for dissemination of his point of view and communication of his uh objectives and he went on twitter every day and he just tweeted um and i think you know anyone who's been part of a business or an operation that's had to deal with you know media gathering facts that uh that you don't consider to be true and you can't counter their point and then they publish and it's static and it's out there um you're frustrated and in the in the the world that we have today which is many alternatives for going direct to our customer and going direct to our audience through social media and having control over that message uh it's appealing to make the switch away from traditional pr and going to social i mean chamath you don't put out press releases you go on twitter and you make a statement about what your intentions are and you publish your one-pagers and i feel like everyone's trying to do this and there's all this like trend and big companies now too which is how do you develop a quote-unquote social media presence you can speak directly to your audience and your customers without having to go through the press i find it very hard um to get the point across um by going through traditional media right it's not that it's not that it can't be done but i find it harder and harder and the reason is because they're in such a ferocious competition with social media and so they have to be just as click oriented and newsworthy as the next best tweet that's that's trending at that time so it's it's almost impossible task well naval naval had a great line about this which i think he tweeted a long time ago which is that the internet commoditized the reporting of facts and so at that point the the traditional media went wholesale into opinions into opinions and so now they all have an agenda of some kind and especially the tech press their agenda basically is hatred of tech i mean they hate the people they're reporting on i mean jcal you know this right i mean yeah i mean having been a journalist for a long time i've been a journalist for a long time i've been a journalist in this it's really interesting to hear your opinions and if you look at trust among republicans all-time low in the press and then just all americans don't trust the press right now they think there's hidden agendas and it really is a confluence of events what happened was the internet caused um the revenue streams of the press to get just violently compressed or eliminated so you know you had craigslist take the classified business google and facebook took the ad business in subscriptions netflix spotify etc so you have all that revenue is gone and what that meant was they didn't have the resources to do fact checking and then the publishing schedule because 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